Do you think that life is fair? |
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zappaholic
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
Posted: April 23 2012 at 18:45 | ||
Life is neither fair nor unfair. It's just life.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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Conor Fynes
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 11 2009 Location: Vancouver, CA Status: Offline Points: 3196 |
Posted: April 23 2012 at 18:59 | ||
Is this a trick question?
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Finnforest
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 19:05 | ||
This. It's all about enjoying the joys of your existence before (and during) your periods of suffering. Regardless of personal perspective or status we are all going to suffer in profound ways. Those with more have more to lose. The well-offs only temporarily escape because they had a cushier life.......and even those blessed with the love of a family and children will have to suffer the loss of them......there's a few lines in the film Shadowlands that say it quite well. Enjoy every moment for all you can. Oh, and don't overthink it. It won't help anyway. Edited by Finnforest - April 23 2012 at 19:05 |
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Textbook
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: April 23 2012 at 19:09 | ||
I know it may be tiresome to bring religion into the thread but the fact is this is essentially a religious question.
If life is "fair", it means it is being governed by some sort of intelligent force that controls things and makes sure they all balance out and people get what they deserve etc, so whether you're religious or not answers this question automatically. If you're not religious, there is no such force so life is not fair and if you are religious then your god sorts it all out as it should be and life is fair.
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Epignosis
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 19:19 | ||
You know, one can be religious and not believe in a god. |
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RoyFairbank
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
Posted: April 23 2012 at 19:37 | ||
^your point?
They still believe in an irrational element to reality, in which they can stuff all kinds of expectations, like reincarnation, or nirvana, or whatever else makes Buddhists horny. |
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Epignosis
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 19:41 | ||
My point was clear enough, and not meant for you: Religious =/= theist. |
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RoyFairbank
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
Posted: April 23 2012 at 19:46 | ||
Oh I thought Equality posted that. I don't like about picking on Epignosis. But, nonetheless, Religious =/= Theist is a stupid, pedantic argument which signifies nothing. An argument against a theist can be substituted for an argument against religious people in general like margarine for butter. |
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Epignosis
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 19:52 | ||
I am a champion of clarity. I could name many arguments against theism that would not be applicable to a Buddhist. |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 19:58 | ||
Aside from that even Rob, people can think life is unfair and not be religious at all. Plenty of atheists think that good actions should be rewarded and would say life is not fair.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 19:59 | ||
But you like about picking on me? |
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 20:02 | ||
Yes. It must mean about I like you. |
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The T
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 22:23 | ||
Yes. I'm not religious and I used to think life wasn't fair. But in the last few years I've finally realized life isn't fair, it isn't unfair either. Only people can act fairly or unfairly. Life is just that: life.
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Textbook
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: April 23 2012 at 22:56 | ||
"Life isn't fair" doesn't mean "life is unfair". "Life is unfair" is again quasi-religious, suggesting there's some sort of pervasive force that goes around making sure everyone gets screwed. (Insert joke about government here.)
I think most people saying "life isn't fair" actually mean "life is neither fair nor unfair, it simply is."
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 23:02 | ||
In short: no.
For a rebellious bunch of conceited, selfish sinners (the whole human race, including myself) the Son of God became man, suffered, died in shame and torment, and was buried, only to rise again, proving his divinity and sealing the promise of eternal life for us. God sacrificed his own Son, Jesus Christ on our behalf, that we might receive mercy, and we complain about life not being fair? Of course it's not fair, we don't deserve anything except for death, and Jesus died that we may live. So in answer to your comment, Textbook, yes, according to some religions life is "fair," but according to the Christian faith life is about as unfair as it could possibly get, because the sinless Son of God died for all of the sins of depraved mankind. (And it still makes sense with limited atonement, for all you Calvinists out there )
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I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 23:41 | ||
Well, then, I suppose that it would be more accurate for me to say that "life is unfair," then, not because we get "screwed" but because we receive undeserved mercy at God's expense. Were you even responding to me? Not sure, I'll post anyway.
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I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
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The T
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Posted: April 23 2012 at 23:44 | ||
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Man With Hat
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 01:21 | ||
Lolno
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: April 24 2012 at 01:48 | ||
I may or may not have chugged a half bottle of wine after a really sh*tty night, so assuming I did, please excuse the following:
Of f**king course it isn't fair! Jesus Christ you can't be serious.
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OT Räihälä
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 09 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 514 |
Posted: April 24 2012 at 03:08 | ||
To be fair or unfair, life would need a given purpose first. As all life (human or non-human) is just an organic phenomenon without any specified purpose, this question is illogical.
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