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    Posted: April 30 2012 at 17:33
What examples can everyone think of for classical music being played in other styles?  Bonus points if it's an entire classical piece.  A while back I discovered:

I always thought Stravinski was the first Progressive Metal composer.  Wink
Of course there is ELP with Pictures at an Exhibition and Ginastra's Tocatta.  And more modern is Muse who work classical melodies into their songs.  And Symphony X works Mars the Bringer of War into the Divine Wings of Tragedy.  Also, Epica has their live album "Classical Conspiracy" where the entire first disc is various Classical pieces (and a couple movie themes as well).  What else can everyone think of?
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Sorry I hate classical music played in other styles. Just as I don't like rock played by a symphonic orchestra. 
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Originally posted by The T

Sorry I hate classical music played in other styles. Just as I don't like rock played by a symphonic orchestra. 
 
I like both.  I know bands like ELP and Trans-Siberian Orchestra do a lot of this, but maybe my favorite little classical tidbit is at the end of Rush's 2112: Overture, which contains a riff pulled directly from the Tsichovsky's 1812 Overture.
 
Oh, this too:
 
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Not like what I do counts but I write string quartet pieces and sometimes change them into heavy prog settings.
 
Also Rush does a little ditty in La Villa Strangiato that i KNOW is from something.
 
Try string quartet tribute to Mars Volta for the backward version of this.
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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes

Originally posted by The T

Sorry I hate classical music played in other styles. Just as I don't like rock played by a symphonic orchestra. 
 
I like both.  I know bands like ELP and Trans-Siberian Orchestra do a lot of this, but maybe my favorite little classical tidbit is at the end of Rush's 2112: Overture, which contains a riff pulled directly from the Tsichovsky's 1812 Overture.
 
Oh, this too:
 

[facepalm] ... I started liking that dude when he played his guitar a la Fripp in the beginning ... then he blew it. Oh, well.

On the topic: I like the way Florian Fricke incorporated classical music with tantric songs, Sinai chanting, etc. I would recommend "Hosianna Mantra" and 'Wehe Khorazin' on "Sei Still, Wisse ICH BIN".
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This avant-metal group called Harvey Milk (a fave of mine, and yes they are on PA) has this piece called "The Anvil Will Fall" which has a classical interlude about 3 minutes in which I knew was from something but I couldn't place it.... I finally did some research and figured out it's from Holst's "Jupiter" (from "The Planets").




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sometimes it works :
 
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I'm somewhat square-minded on this subject. I hate all of those.
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Some rock/metal renditions are pretty interesting, but I can't take them too seriously...
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There're alot of great samples of that kind of fusion.  
For example , ex Yugoslavia Korni Grupa interprated Beethoven' stuff in this one -- yea, sounds so beautiful because the band's composer & keys player is classical music educated musician:
 


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I really enjoyed that, thank you!

I couldn't find a YouTube link for it, but when I was in college I had a guilty pleasure for...(gasp)...techno.  And I had this album called Classical Renaissance that was all techno versions of Classical music by a group called Diffusion.

I also remember my Dad had an album called "Switched on Bach" that was pretty cool, it was synthesizers playing Bach.
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Originally posted by dtguitarfan

I also remember my Dad had an album called "Switched on Bach" that was pretty cool, it was synthesizers playing Bach.
it's by Wendy Carlos (well, at the time she was still a he, so it was Walter Carlos), an artist well-known in electronic music circles.
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Originally posted by lucas


Originally posted by dtguitarfan


I also remember my Dad had an album called "Switched on Bach" that was pretty cool, it was synthesizers playing Bach.

it's by Wendy Carlos (well, at the time she was still a he, so it was Walter Carlos), an artist well-known in electronic music circles.
That's one I have heard. And I have to add, is a total atrocity.
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Originally posted by dtguitarfan

I always thought Stravinski was the first Progressive Metal composer.  Wink
... What else can everyone think of?

This is a very personal PoV: To really appreciate this music I must first know the original, because I don't like hard metal music (there are exceptions that can't be defined beforehand). And if I know the original - I have read the score of Le Sacre maybe ten million times - this music offers very, very little, that the original wouldn't. The finer nuances of music are lost. And still: how I'd love this music to win new fans for the 20th century music.

Generally, I don't like rock music played by a symphony orchestra, nor do I like classical music played with the means of rock music. They are like a good beef with syrup, or ice cream with Würze. The worst thing I know is rock bands playing Bach (yawn...), or some other baroque.

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And in the meantime: I love it when someone is crazy enough to do stuff like that. Wink And I'm about to arrange some rock music for a symphony orchestra soon myself...


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I guess both classical and 20th century classical/avantgarde works best as inspiration for bands. But I'm sure its possible to successfully  transcribe classical music and make it work in almost any another context. Even with rock instruments. 

I can think of a few in jazz that I quite like: Miles Davis - Concierto de Aranjuez, Alice Coltrane Excerpt from the Firebird Suite. I can't stand any of the prog goes classic I've heard, but is it a rule that says it has to end up sounding worse than when Coltrane is using standards like Greenleeves or My Favorite Things? 

I'm sure Univers Zero could do something interesing with a Bartok composition. 

Hell I'll admit to diggin this one too. I think its works just fine as jazzfusion, and why shouldn't it?



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Originally posted by ole-the-first

Some rock/metal renditions are pretty interesting, but I can't take them too seriously...

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