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    Posted: May 16 2012 at 06:55
I'm a seasoned Keneally novice, but I was directed to start with Hat which is great and then I acquired "The Universe will Provide" and it is even greater. I've since listened to a couple other of his solo and Beer for Dolphins--he's consistently creative--enjoy
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Alright.

Hat was cool, there was some cool moments, but a lot of it just wasn't doing it for me. Sort of like the first Steve Vai album - very Zappa influenced and such, with some good songs, but the overall package doesn't work for me.

But seeing that you guys alluded to the fact that it gets better after Hat, I will continue to check out Mike's stuff.
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Wow, I can hear where Beardfish got some of their influence from. I always knew they were influenced by Zappa, but I also hear influence from Keneally, I'm noticing it on Spearmint Pup (listen to Beardfish's Sleeping In Traffic Pt 1 to hear what I'm talking about)
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Well it definitely has that 80s Zappa feel, mostly in the guitar, and I hear some John Zorn influence too, this is some wild music Evil Smile
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Just started playing Hat on Spotify, I'll give you my opinions soon/
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Well, I'm just about finished with the entire Lather album by Zappa, so I'm up for some humorous proggy stuff. Smile
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You're good to go then.  And get ready to laugh!

edit: Looking over the "Hat" track list again, I really only spot 4 or 5 complete songs that would qualify as "joke songs", so perhaps I overstated the humor aspect.   But musically, it jumps around so much it's comically eclectic.

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Oh, ok. I like goofiness, as long as it works within the context of the music (ie, most of Zappa's work)
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

What do you mean by 'high geek-quotient'?


Hard to explain.  Have you ever seen Zappa's concert film "Does Humor Belong in Music?"  To me, those performances have a pretty high geek quotient.  Lots of jokey interjections on the band's part (exhibit A: "Tinsel Town Rebellion"), mugging for the camera, and generally being a clown.  Not anything wrong with that (on the contrary! I love it), but some people would just rather hear the serious music without all the goofiness.  If that film doesn't bother you, then "Hat" won't either.
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What do you mean by 'high geek-quotient'?
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Geez, I dunno... flip a coin I guess. LOL

BTW, both Sluggo and Dancing begin with very poppy tracks, so don't let that scare you off.

Also, Hat has a very high geek-quotient, so don't let that scare you off either.

Maybe Boil That Dust Speck is the best place to start, come to think of it.  A little of everything, and lots of it.


edit: OK, Man With Hat says do "Hat" first.   The guy knows his hats, so follow his advice.




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The beginning IMO.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
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It figures that the 2 albums that appeal to me most based
on HolyMoly's descriptions (SLUGGO and NONKERTOMPF) are not on Spotify.

Dancing is there, which he said was similar to Sluggo, is this a good place to start,
or should I just start at the beginning?
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:


Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

HolyMoly,Your descriptions of those albums make me really want to check them out. Did you list them in chronological order? If so, I may just check them on that way.



Yes, I believe they are chronological. Curious to hear what you think!
Well... Hat, Boil That Dusk Speck, Wooden Smoke Asleep, Dancing, and Wine and Pickles are all on Spotify. I'll check some of those out soon enough.He's on James LaBrie's second Mullmuzzler album? I didn't know that, nor do I have that one.


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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

HolyMoly,Your descriptions of those albums make me really want to check them out. Did you list them in chronological order? If so, I may just check them on that way.



Yes, I believe they are chronological. Curious to hear what you think!


Well... Hat, Boil That Dusk Speck, Wooden Smoke Asleep, Dancing, and Wine and Pickles are all on Spotify. I'll check some of those out soon enough.

He's on James LaBrie's second Mullmuzzler album? I didn't know that, nor do I have that one.
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

HolyMoly,Your descriptions of those albums make me really want to check them out. Did you list them in chronological order? If so, I may just check them on that way.



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HolyMoly,

Your descriptions of those albums make me really want to check them out. Did you list them in chronological order? If so, I may just check them on that way.
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^^ I have an early live VHS release from him (forgot the title, but it's a weird title).  Just a power trio lineup, but does some unbelievable things with a guitar, even on stage.  He really works up a sweat too -- one of the more animated players you'll see.  Of course, that was 20 years ago, I don't know how animated he is these days.
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Every time I've seen Mike, I've been amazed!  His guitar chops are unreal, he can play damn near anything (I heard him play some parts from "Tarkus" on an acoustic guitar once!), and he has a wild stage presence!   As a Zappa alum, he brings that "controlled chaos" to the stage. 

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I appreciate the help so far. Quite honestly, I'm interested it ALL of them, which is a good sign that I'll probably enjoy the show next month! I'm thinking of getting Universe will Provide, because the orchestral samplings in the videos grabbed me. I'm also a huge fan of "Duke of Orchestral Prunes" (a song Zappa did with much the same instrumentation (screaming guitar and epic orchestral). If not, I'll definitely pick it up at the show...
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