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    Posted: May 23 2012 at 21:21
Reccomend me some free form jazz. And sence most Free Jazz players/bands are differant, describe it, or post a video in the fourm, or both.
 


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First off, this should be in the general music discussion thread. 

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Last one's somewhere between modal and free, Pharoah's awesome.
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I'm no expert on free jazz, but my favorite so far, as mentioned in the last post, is Ornette Coleman.


I don't know if Eric Dolphy's music is ever consider free jazz, but he's great too.
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I'd say Out to Lunch could be considered somewhat free jazz, if not full-out free.   Definitely within the realms of avant-garde though, and easily within the realms of excellence. 
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Another to check out is Albert Ayler.
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The Cherry tune is not exactly free, but he does have some more wild works, although he usually meanders through African and Indian musical grounds, somewhat like Sanders does.
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Sun Ra.
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Originally posted by SaltyJon

I'd say Out to Lunch could be considered somewhat free jazz, if not full-out free.   Definitely within the realms of avant-garde though, and easily within the realms of excellence. 


Just got that album last weekend, so good


and Sun Ra is amazing

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Post Options Post Options   Quote trinidadx13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2012 at 22:39
I am a big John Coltrane fan, I recommend: John Coltrane's: Infinity, Ascension, Interstellar space, and The John Coltrane Quartet plays. You could also check out Miles Davis' track from Miles Smiles entitled "Freedom jazz dance". 
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There are some great threads about it here IIRC.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2012 at 06:52
I usually prefer free jazz that still sound somewhat structured, if that makes any sense. I guess I favour an academic Avant-Garde Jazz approach more than the free form/full blowout Jazz! 

I'll take Andrew Hill's masterpiece Compulsion!!!!, Out To Lunch and Grachan Moncur's compositions over Coleman and Ayler.

Enough about me and my preferences. Here's a free spirited one I do love (posted mainly for the first 24 minutes here, which is the track Astigmatic):






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you need some James Blood Ulmer :
 
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Holy cow!  I need some James Blood Ulmer.  Bloody excellent!
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I think Sun Ra wins when it comes to free jazz personally.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2012 at 02:20
Some favorites perhaps not 100% free, but after buying all this free jazz CD reissues with alternative takes on jazz considered "free improvisations" its difficult to know where to draw the line: 

From Life/Time 1964

From Firebirds 1967


From Dimensions & Extensions recorded 1967 released in 1986


Definitely prefer the early Cecil Taylor. If you think it all started in 1959 with Ornette and Coltrane, check out Cecils Jazz Advance from 1956, or 1958's Looking Ahead! , where this tune is from:







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I don't know. Everyone's already beat me to the punch.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2012 at 19:27
Oh crap, I dropped into the wrong thread.  I was wanting to be free from jazz. Tongue
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Hi,

Sun Ra fits the bill, although I think that this is a lot of simply free form scream by folks that know music and want to turn it inside out. It's a good listen, but it does rap your ears after a while, but there are some nice moments in the middle of it all.

I much prefer the ECM free jazz thing a lot better and some of the mixes they make, though I am not sure that most folks listen enough to it, in order to find the gems in the middle of all the releases. They are numerous and out of this world.

Still looking for the album that has the Symphony for the Chromatic Harp ... and its not Toots!
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