You like, I dislike

The_Jester wrote: Dellinger wrote: I particularly dislike Peter Gabriel's singing. There, just the favourite singer from this forum, and one among my very least favourites in prog. That's interesting but why don't you like his voice? And who's your favorite singer?

First, technically as a singer I find him profoundly lacking. I don't really hear all the emotion some people praise him for, on the contrary, when he is supposed to reach more emotional peaks, his voice goes down and it reaches some sort of anticlimax for me. All the weird things he does with his voice sometimes I just find annoying (perfect example, "Back in NY City"). Now, after all this time listening to Genesis, I must say I have gotten used to his singing and it doesn't annoy me so much anymore, and I have been able to "get" some of his emotional peaks... up to a point... however I find him far from being the best prog vocalist around. Now, singers that I do love, and believe them to be more technically and/or emotionally talented (and many will disagree with me, of course), Jon Anderson, Annie Haslam, Francesco DiGiancomo, Jimmy Spitaleri, Freddy Mercury, and well, some others, of course. Also, I don't really know Peter Hamill so well, but for what I've heard, I think he is a very good vocalist indeed, and I understand he likes to do the theatrical thing Peter Gabriel does, but I find him a much more accomplished singer.

Ambient Hurricanes wrote: cstack3 wrote: Alex Lifeson can't hold a candle to prog guitarists like Patrucci.   Alex Lifeson is way better than Petrucci.  And I like Petrucci.

JS19 wrote: Dislike: - Peter Gabriel and Gabriel era Genesis - Magma - 70s sounding production - Fantasy lyrics - The Flower Kings - Mellotron Like: - Modern production - Cds over Vinyls - Ambient music - Post Rock more than Prog Rock - Nick Barrett's voice Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Zombywoof wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:   Anthony H. wrote:   Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:   Anthony H. wrote:   Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: 6.- Opeth (If only Akkerfeld sung and not made those annoying sounds)   What's the problem, Can't I dislike that growls? Iván Of course you can dislike them. But by characterizing them "annoying sounds", it sounds like you're trying to de-legitimize that vocal style. It's something I see a lot, and it drives me insane.   Voice is a sound  Growls are annoying So there's no offense in the statement But you are right I don't consider growling like an animal a legitimate singing style, just as I don't consider most Rap as legitimate music, so live  with it but don't attack people for their opinions. Iván   I know how you feel. I'm currently being attacked on a youtube video for sharing similiar opinions. Aren't so called prog fans supposed to being accepting of others' points of view? Some Progheads are only tolerant when you agree with them. Just in case: growl (ɡraʊl)  Definitions verb (of animals, esp when hostile) to utter (sounds) in a low inarticulate manner  ⇒ the dog growled at us  to utter (words) in a gruff or angry manner  ⇒ he growled an apology  (intr) to make sounds suggestive of an animal growling  ⇒ the thunder growled around the lake  Growling is making a sound and I find it annoying Iván I wish to join this polite little scrap  Growling is the emphasis of the percussive timbre of the voice. It's not to everyone's tastes, but it's so abrasive to so many people because we're used to hearing pitch as the main focus of a vocalist.  If drums had had a pitch emphasis rather than a rhythm emphasis for the last 100 odd years of music, the introduction of a percussive drum into music would have caused a complete uproar with people saying the sound was 'horrible' and 'noisy'. Go back to the Baroque era where any dissonance more than a diminished 7th was considered unbearable to the ear, you can see that people's acceptance to new musical ideas change with the amount of time that idea has been around for. Give it another 50 years and we won't have anyone moaning about growls anymore, but I'm sure there'll be something new for us now young ones to maon about. I'm thinking the development of the robot 'autotune' voice.  .

And in the end, all these weird proggers discovered to have an untold uncanny inclination towards hip-hop...

Stevo wrote: 3. Zappas antics (just shut up and ...well you know)

Ironically, he preferred to just play instrumental music, it was including vocals that brought in the $$$. I'd love to hear his opinions on internet users.

^ I accept you find growls are annoying but your two point "statement" was presented as fact. I really don't care either way.

Edited by Snow Dog - May 31 2012 at 11:31

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^ I accept you find growls are annoying but your two point "statement" was presented as fact. I really don't care either way. btw. I don't expect to get the last word on this so I probably won't reply if you do. depends what you say I suppose. If you say I'm a c**t I may have to retort. Just for the record, I also said on a previous post:after a dictionary quote Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Growling is making a sound and I find it annoying Iván And no, I won't call you names, that's not my style. Iván BTW: To avoid suceptibilities, unless I say it's a fact and present evidence , each of my posts will be considered as my opinion

But how can we argue polemics with all this pluralism?

I like all music to some extent.  I just like some music more, or much more, or much, much more, or much, much, much more, or much, much, much, much more, or much, much, much,  much, much more than other music.  In sum, I just like some music more than others.


Edited by Logan - June 02 2012 at 22:04

Dayvenkirq wrote: moshkito wrote: Hi,   Dislike: ...  - All the pretentions that show up on this board disguised as a serious music listener, when they only review their favorites! People have different reasons to review only their favorites and "favorites". Some choose not to review stuff they don't understand because ... well, they are waiting for their ears to mature (like cheese or wine), i.e. to take delight in the music before they will actually feel ready to write a review for it.