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    Posted: May 27 2012 at 14:20

Listning to it right now.

Was revisiting The Ultimate PA Album List - Results!!!
It was mentioned that only 1, had the album on his top album list.
 
I was wondering why, is it because it was a relative new album at the time ?
I think its fantastic, its overwhelming, complex, in a way its a prog genre in its own, a masterfull kick, where it hurts the most.
Was hard to get into at first, its still growing on me, after a lot of listning. Seems to fit together stronger and stronger every time.
 
Just want some opinions on the album, good or bad, as long as You gave it a fair chance.
 
   
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For me it's too long and too similar.
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It did grow on me and it's quite a good album, but it's certainly not better than Frances The Mute. Conjugal Burns has never worked for me.
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I just got the album, and have finished most of it (yes, I'm one of those people who sometimes stops in the middle of an album Embarrassed).  Just based on first impressions, "Bedlam" is a perfect word to describe it.  I don't understand why it's rated so low on here, it seems that a crazier Mars Volta, if anything, would be a good thing.  But I suppose Man With Hat has a point, that because of the length and noisy nature of the album, it can start to sound samey and to grate on the nerves.  I like it so far, but there are certain times when I would definitely not be in the mood for it.
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Originally posted by Man With Hat

For me it's too long and too similar.


That's actually a remarkable description.  Clap
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I'm one of the odd ones out here, as Bedlam is usually the first disc I reach for when I'm in the mood for TMV.
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Bedlam changed music for me. That album influenced me more than any other album. I listened to that album blindfolded so I could focus on the music even more, and I saw amazing pictures. Seriously I would put it in my top 3 albums of all time.
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I've found people getting really enthused over TBIG is usually a result of first-album-syndrome.
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^Frances was my first and not my favorite. Tbig would be my 4th from them. I'm just one of those ppl that think that tbig would be better if it had more instruments in it and even more going on. Ha
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Although I already knew TMV and their sound, this one was very hard to get into, and in the end I gave up, it was too noisy, flat, and messy. Since I'm gonna see them live soon, I thought I must get in to it, the next try was better and it didn't took me long to realize it's a very good album. But it is too long, I agree.


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I was once a TMV zombie but Octahedron turned me off a bit. I haven't even heard Noctourniquet.
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^ You really should my friend, you really should, it's different but one of their best IMO.


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Originally posted by Textbook

I was once a TMV zombie but Octahedron turned me off a bit. I haven't even heard Noctourniquet.

I thought Octahedron was a great follow-up to Bedlam, as I really enjoyed the emphasis on their softer side after the chaos of Bedlam.  I especially enjoyed the mellotron Big smile.
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Although I like the concept, I don't like the material.


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Bedlam's good. Their 4th best album behind the first 3 albums.
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My least favorite of their full-length studio albums, but still fantastic stuff. I can understand how it could sound "too similar" at first, but multiple listens reveal the intricacies behind each track.

Still, it doesn't pack the same emotional punch for me that TMV's other five albums do.


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^ Octahedron packs a punch? Wink
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Originally posted by darkshade

^ Octahedron packs a punch? Wink


Yeah, I unasbashedly love Octahedron. Cool
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Originally posted by Anthony H.

Originally posted by darkshade

^ Octahedron packs a punch? Wink


Yeah, I unasbashedly love Octahedron. Cool


I do too, I love all their albums; they're newest is really really good.

But where does Octehedron "pack a punch", aside from Cotopaxi? Wink
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Originally posted by darkshade

Originally posted by Anthony H.

Originally posted by darkshade

^ Octahedron packs a punch? Wink


Yeah, I unasbashedly love Octahedron. Cool


I do too, I love all their albums; they're newest is really really good.

But where does Octehedron "pack a punch", aside from Cotopaxi? Wink


Emotional punch.
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