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Henry Cow vs. Fred Frith

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    Posted: May 27 2012 at 14:43
Well? Is it the band that pioneered RIO, or the band's guitarist and his solo career.

My vote goes for Mr. Frith's solo stuff. While Henry Cow were boundary pushing, I feel as if Frith experimented and managed to meld successful songwriting. That is, in the albums with songs LOL
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The Cow.
 
Frith's discog has some great stuff in it but some less than exciting stuff (for my tastes). The only thing I find par about the Cow is IPOL...which has improved to me last time I listened to it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 15:11
I haven't heard enough of Fred Frith's "solo" output to comfortably vote, but I sure do love Henry Cow.

Edited by Logan - May 27 2012 at 15:12
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I really only *love* one Henry Cow album, and that's Western Culture (not that I dislike the other three at all).

Fred Frith, on the other hand, has given me countless hours of musical delight.  I vote Fred without hesitation.

Frippism: you're not going to believe this, but....

I was planning on starting a Fred Frith thread today too.  I own (and love) Gravity, Speechless, Cheap at 1/2 the Price, Step Across the Border,  and Technology of Tears, but that's it. Plus the two records he did with French Frith Kaiser and Thompson, and the Massacre album with Maher and Laswell.   I gather that a lot of his other releases are improvisatory in nature, and I'm not really interested in hearing much more of that (fun though they are to watch on stage), and I was wondering if there were any other solo albums I've missed which take advantage of his compositional side.

Any recs?
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I vote Herny Cwo, but I barely ever want to listen to either
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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I really only *love* one Henry Cow album, and that's Western Culture (not that I dislike the other three at all).

Fred Frith, on the other hand, has given me countless hours of musical delight.  I vote Fred without hesitation.

Frippism: you're not going to believe this, but....

I was planning on starting a Fred Frith thread today too.  I own (and love) Gravity, Speechless, Cheap at 1/2 the Price, Step Across the Border,  and Technology of Tears, but that's it. Plus the two records he did with French Frith Kaiser and Thompson, and the Massacre album with Maher and Laswell.   I gather that a lot of his other releases are improvisatory in nature, and I'm not really interested in hearing much more of that (fun though they are to watch on stage), and I was wondering if there were any other solo albums I've missed which take advantage of his compositional side.

Any recs?

OK seriously stop reading my brain.

I've already started a Frith thread some time ago but it seems to have disappeared into the unknown...

One album I've getting into lately is called "Dropera" by Fred & Ferd (I do not know who Ferd is). It's all sung in French and is rather delightful weird ass post punk. 

Prints I've started listening to and is pretty good. Another composition based album only this one's from 2002. 

I too would rather just watch him improvise on stage rather than listen to the CDs...

Also his live album with live band "Keep The Dog" is one of the best live album's I've ever heard.

But I think I too need to expand my collection of his stuff even more.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Triceratopsoil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 17:24
I love everything the man does.  Voted solo on the basis that there is more material.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2012 at 17:36
Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Well? Is it the band that pioneered RIO, or the band's guitarist and his solo career.

My vote goes for Mr. Frith's solo stuff. While Henry Cow were boundary pushing, I feel as if Frith experimented and managed to meld successful songwriting. That is, in the albums with songs LOL


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I just experimented by pouring a bit of red wine on my keyboard and tryied to lick it up with my tongue.  That was the result.  Am I not amazing?  (A lot got on my spacebar)

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I do not praise experimentation for the sake of experimentation.  I praise the one percent.

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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Well? Is it the band that pioneered RIO, or the band's guitarist and his solo career.

My vote goes for Mr. Frith's solo stuff. While Henry Cow were boundary pushing, I feel as if Frith experimented and managed to meld successful songwriting. That is, in the albums with songs LOL


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I just experimented by pouring a bit of red wine on my keyboard and tryied to lick it up with my tongue.  That was the result.  Am I not amazing?  (A lot got on my spacebar)

99% of experimentation results in Thumbs Down

I do not praise experimentation for the sake of experimentation.  I praise the one percent.

Yep.  That last statement in the USA will get taken right the hell out of context.  Approve

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2012 at 08:29
I'm confused, is Fred Frith or Henry Cow the fictional person? LOL

Would you believe that for all the solo Frith albums I have I have yet to have a Cow.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zravkapt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2012 at 19:32
^In that case I would say, "have a Cow man!"
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for what it's worth  (I'm unable to post on the gigs forum)

Fred Frith will be playing a solo concert in Austin, Texas on Feb. 1, 2014 at The North Door  courtesy of Epistrophy Arts
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