Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog News, Press Releases
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Phideaux new album "Infernal", latest news
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Phideaux new album "Infernal", latest news

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 23456>
Author
Message
Phideaux View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 27 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Phideaux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2012 at 11:49
Yes, supermorpher isn't my track.  it is a track I collaborated on another artist's album.  So, it is a different style completely.  But, you can possibly hear my DNA in there.

For folks who were thinking about upgrading to the New Number Seven.  Here's a link to download the album in wav format.  You can construct the cd by burning these with no space between to hear the fuller fidelity...


http://www.littlejimmymills.com/AlternaDown/PXN72010Rem.zip

I think the greater problem Guimabvue is that I haven't really researched where to go to sell my vinyl.  I would like VERY MUCH to redo the catalogue in vinyl, but it costs so much to make the blasted cover art!  Anyone know any good printers who do gatefold covers of small runs for cheap?


Back to Top
PhideauxFan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: August 14 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 1154
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PhideauxFan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2012 at 03:20
Phideaux live at Crescendo festival (France). Cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0GffVaNQLw&feature=youtu.be
Back to Top
guitaroulis View Drop Down
Forum Newbie (< 5 posts)
Forum Newbie (< 5 posts)


Joined: June 15 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 4
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote guitaroulis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2012 at 15:28
I don't actually know right now, but a friend's friend  runs a new record company and he is going to work only vinyl from now on. I will ask and provide the available info. I don't know what percentage of the final cost accounts for the cover, but I will ask every detail!!!! Cool
Back to Top
Phideaux View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 27 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Phideaux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2012 at 23:26
thanks.  Of course, I'm always only interested in gatefold sleeves, so it's possible to get single panel covers for much less.
Back to Top
CCVP View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: September 15 2007
Location: Vitória, Brasil
Status: Offline
Points: 7935
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CCVP Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2012 at 23:31
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

thanks.  Of course, I'm always only interested in gatefold sleeves, so it's possible to get single panel covers for much less.

The mean you have chosen for Snowtorch was great, though: had many of the strengths of both the CD and the vinyl. I, however, missed the booklet (which is my favorite part in having the physical copies).
Back to Top
Phideaux View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 27 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Phideaux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 11:43
yes, the booklet was dispensed with.  We instead used the tri fold lyric thing.  It's sad, but we are transitioning to a vinyl format for future releases, although with Infernal, we will have a booklet like we had with Doomsday, and previous albums, when rereleased, will have their original booklets inside the vinyl style sleeve.  The LP editions, will dispense with the booklet and just take some of the ideas and utilize them for the gatefold...

Oh, the format wars...
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 27310
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 12:01
Reminds me of one of my favorite Jen Sorensen cartoons:
cartoon
Back to Top
gazagod View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: June 04 2012
Location: babylon
Status: Offline
Points: 55
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gazagod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 13:50
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

yes, the booklet was dispensed with.  We instead used the tri fold lyric thing.  It's sad, but we are transitioning to a vinyl format for future releases, although with Infernal, we will have a booklet like we had with Doomsday, and previous albums, when rereleased, will have their original booklets inside the vinyl style sleeve.  The LP editions, will dispense with the booklet and just take some of the ideas and utilize them for the gatefold...

Oh, the format wars...

this is what i've been seeing/suggesting for people in music that i know...  I've heard artists get jack/nothing from dloads and no one is buying cds..?  sorry if im not reading you right? are you saying in the future(after Infernal) you will be strictly doing dloads(masses/poor people) and vinyl lp releases(fans/collectors)Smile... ps really enjoy your work
bought 2 cds and 2 downloads-oh, the guilt! good thing im not jewish or christian
we only know that we do not know
Back to Top
Phideaux View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 27 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Phideaux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 15:33
Not exactly.  I'm saying that in the future I will house my compact disc editions in "mini LP sleeves" of a high quality with an insert that contains the pertinent information, but the cover will be a shrunken version of the LP sleeve.

This assumes there will be a vinyl edition of all the albums, which I hope there will be.  There will, at least, be a design for what those vinyl LP editions would look like.

therefore, in a perfect world, we would put out a CD and an LP...  Downloads will be available via piracy sites and places like itunez and bandclap
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 27310
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 16:02
I really wish the mini LP CD package had become predominant instead of the "jewel" case.
Back to Top
Aussie-Byrd-Brother View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Rock Progressivo Italiano Team

Joined: October 12 2011
Location: Melb, Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 4226
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Aussie-Byrd-Brother Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 16:02
Hello Phideaux,

I truly loved the vinyl edition of `Snowtorch', and it was just a wonderful and endlessly relistenable prog album! I also thought it was quite accessible to people who normally wouldn't be interested in prog - going by people in my office at work who've asked what I was listening to! :)

Did I read you correctly from a post earlier on that the vinyl copies didn't sell very well and that you've had a heap left over?!

So my question is, do you feel it will be worth your time, effort, and most importantly money, to release future albums/reissues on the vinyl format?

Of course I hope you do, as I prefer getting my prog albums on that format, but I don't know if that's a realistic request from your point of view!

By the way, I would say please come down to Australia and play some shows, what with Australia being the prog capital of the world - note obvious sarcasm! Wishful thinking to see your band live!
Back to Top
Phideaux View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 27 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Phideaux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 17:42
Hey Aussie-Byrd!  Australia is my second best friend!  (a Kath & Kim reference...)

I WISH to high heaven we could release all our stuff in vinyl, but I'm skint now and the vinyl didn't sell.  I didn't do a good enough job of trying to sell it, however.

But, in future, I'm hopeful that we will continue to try and get vinyl editions of future albums.  It's the older ones that might not get done.  However, when we put out our next album Infernal, we'll also do a commemorative LP edition of  "The Great Leap"/"Doomsday Afternoon"/"Infernal" as a 6 LP set (with Leap/Doom sharing three discs, Infernal on two and a bonus mystery disc of Doom related alternate mixes, live stuff and some rare bits.

My hope is to do it all on vinyl ultimately.  Wish I could come to Australia, but it would cost too much to get the band down there. 

And to Slartibartfast -- don't I totally agree!!!  We should have had small editions of the cardboard covers with a booklet.  It's only right and proper!  Jewel cases are evil sent from the Flying Spaghetti Monster's nemesis "Nemesis"
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 27310
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 17:54
My house had hard floors (no carpet) for many years and so many of those bugger jewel cases committed suicide.  I do have two that justified the plastic case: Gentle Giant - In A Glass House and Dark Matter - Seeing Strange Lights.  
Back to Top
gazagod View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: June 04 2012
Location: babylon
Status: Offline
Points: 55
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gazagod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 19:16
how thick/sturdy are these mini-lp replicas? I don't have any of these things... well, i know they aren't digipacks... I do have a few super-thin paper cd containers, for instance a few amon tobin records that came in hard paper... approximating thin cardboard... also have some old haino/fush*tsusha cds that came in big paper folders...  So are these lps 'bigger' than jewel cases (flat area)?
we only know that we do not know
Back to Top
Phideaux View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 27 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Phideaux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2012 at 00:46
The Mini LP format is taller than a jewel box, but in square format, just like a shrunken down LP cover.  They are of two types:  Direct to board, which is like LPs from mid 70s on (like ELO Out Of The Blue, Yes Relayer).  The cheaper kind (to make) is the old style, which is paper over cardboard (like Beatles Sgt. Pepper, Zappa Uncle Meat in original US pressings).  This style wasn't really used in UK, more of a US style.  That is the style that costs way less to produce (at least from the printer that I've found).  This is different from the types of mini lp style things I've seen that are not to the specification, where they can be just as big as the CD itself -- ie. Beatles On Capitol box set, Simon & Garfunkel.  These are usually just the CD in the cardboard, whereas the so called "Japanese Mini LP" style shows far more care in replicating the original LP experience with an inner sleeve and inserts if they came with the original album.   The Sony multi pack releases, where you get 5 Mahavishnu Orch albums in one little box are no more than slightly thicker inner sleeves with the outer sleeve printing and no spine to speak of - these are atrocious.

My belief is that the Japanese style Mini LP editions should be standard - and have become standard for my future releases and reissues of my work.  I would prefer direct to board but it's 2x as expensive and the Mini LP format is already way more expensive than jewel cases for the limited runs that I do.

They do not fit in with other CDs in that they are taller and shallower, but I don't care because it makes the experience a bit less "plastic".  I really HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE digipacks because they are the worst of both worlds.  They have the nasty plastic and when the spindles break you can't even replace them.  Plus they are no smaller than the jewel cases. 

I would prefer to use no plastic except the disc and inner bag and digipacks still rely on plastic.  Also, I don't like the digipack dimensions which are identical to jewel case.

I also hate the cheapie "eco wallets" and whatnot that come from Disk makers and the like.  They just feel a bit like a cheat and seem somewhat disposable. 

These are my pontifications about packaging.  But, I know many people don't care that much about music packaging.  I believe it is a vital part of the whole music experience and for that reason we go the extra mile (and always have) in our artwork, booklets and production. 
Back to Top
gazagod View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: June 04 2012
Location: babylon
Status: Offline
Points: 55
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gazagod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2012 at 03:23
i think it's an interesting topic... and i could obsess about it as well... however, i find that my knowledge is deficient, because of lack of experience.. i haven't seen some of those old LPs you are referencing.  At least I understand what you mean about the mini lp being square rather than rectangular like jewel cases and digipacs(sh%t, as you've said)... 
What I've seen that seems to work is a cotton cd cover inside a harder cardboard case.. but that's not what you are talking about -i don't think..? i have a couple of those from japan.. i think what used to be john zorn's avant label...(early 90s) but i could be wrong..? some of those releases were just jewel cases as well... i gave away some of this stuff and the rest is buried at another residence so I can't check.  Cds on hard paper are not a good idea... the new can lost tapes cd set is a particularly bad case...

what i always wonder about cds... it seems like they are very easy to damage as far as scratches and accumulation of 'film' and 'dirt/crud'... i've had several hundred cds sitting around for 10-15 years and when i take them out and check they seem a lot 'dirtier' than they should be... ah well, probably just bad memory...

but i do wonder, could there be a better surface for cds so they don't get scratched,scuffed, and accumulate crud so easily?  i've known for the last decade i should have gone into materials science...Cry



Edited by gazagod - June 21 2012 at 03:25
we only know that we do not know
Back to Top
Phideaux View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 27 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Phideaux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2012 at 04:23
Yes, the "cotton" cd sleeve within a harder cardboard cover is quite like what I'm talking about.  I just don't use the cotton sleeve, but a low scratching polythene sleeve.  Both are good for not scratching.
Back to Top
guimabvue View Drop Down
Forum Newbie (< 5 posts)
Forum Newbie (< 5 posts)


Joined: November 05 2010
Location: France (44)
Status: Offline
Points: 4
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote guimabvue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 03:25
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:


I think the greater problem Guimabvue is that I haven't really researched where to go to sell my vinyl.

Yes it have been quite dificult to get it! I was surprised in not finding it at the Gibert Joseph french music store (based in Paris) where we find almost everything new in prog music (there was only the cd). We couldn't even find it on the online store of Musea. The only way I had, was Amazon from USA...
Anyway, now i've got it. Smile

Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:


However, when we put out our next album Infernal, we'll also do a commemorative LP edition of  "The Great Leap"/"Doomsday Afternoon"/"Infernal" as a 6 LP set (with Leap/Doom sharing three discs, Infernal on two and a bonus mystery disc of Doom related alternate mixes, live stuff and some rare bits.

Oh no! I cant' wait the end of the year for that, now! Big smile
Will there be an alternative cover for this edition? I think I've already read something like that from you..(but maybe I'm wrong)?

Enjoy your weekend at Nearfest! I envy you.. VdGG, Anglagard, Renaissance... Cry
Back to Top
Phideaux View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 27 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 337
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Phideaux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2012 at 11:55
We just got done recording the basic tracks for the double LP.  I'm so happy it's finished and I think the tracks turned out okay!  Fingers crossed.  The vocalists have yet to do their tracks and we need a bit of electric guitar and a bit of cello/violin/flute...

From July 28 through August 4 we worked at Firehouse Studios in Pasadena, California (Pasadena being where L. Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons - a space scientist at JPL - did a lot of their sex magick explorations...).  There, we rehearsed and recorded approximately two songs per day, concentrating mostly on the rhythm tracks.  We had our two keyboard players, Mark Sherkus and Johnny Unicorn as well as Gabriel Moffat on Electric Guitar and Dobro, Mathew Kennedy on bass and Bloody Rich Hutchins on drums.  I, Phideaux Xavier, alternated between acoustic guitar in the "walk through" room or grand piano (bosendorfer) in the iso piano room.

On Wed, August 1, we had a small film crew there to document the creation of the song "From Hydrogen To Love".  However, we went late into the night on that long form song and the film crew didn't stick around for the big finish (or late night sputter as we later came back and rerecorded the back end to find a bit more energy).

The recordings both disappoint and excite me.  Surprising things happened to the songs and the artist is rarely satisfied with the final version.  It always could be better.  However, I'm trying to learn to accept that this group of musicians on this day in this location transmitted the music as follows...   Good lesson.  Here's hoping "Infernal" takes on a life of its own and forces solutions and invention.

The new running order and song list:

Side One
1. Cast Out And Cold    5:50
2. The Error Lives On    8:15
3. C 99    9:20

Side Two
4.  Inquisitor   9:30
5.  Walk On Water     7:10
6. We Only Have Eyes For You    7:05

Side Three
7. The Order Of Protection (Part One)    4:15
8. Metro Deathfire    4:35
9. Trickle    2:15
10. In Dissonance We Play    2:40
11. The Sleepers Awaken    5:25
12. The Order Of Protection (Part Two)    2:55

Side Four
13. transitional music    2:45
14. From Hydrogen To Love    14:00
15. Eternal    5:05

All rightie, that's the news that's fit to print as of now...

Onward to finish the album!  Of course, the next stop is finalizing Mogon, but then full attention to Infernal!

Back to Top
LiquidEternity View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: December 07 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 899
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LiquidEternity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2012 at 16:12
Two discs of Mogon and two of Phideaux... cannot seem to wait patiently.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 23456>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.01
Copyright ©2001-2014 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.125 seconds.