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Catcher10
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Topic: Clockwork Angels: Any opinionPosted: June 13 2012 at 10:46 |
I agree Geddy's vocals are pretty good to excellent on this new one, the title track is killer for sure.
I don't get the production comment though. I think the sound is pretty damn good for a RoadRunner record....I have only listened on my main system which is pretty damn revealing and I don't hear sloppy, muddled or the like. The bass is heavy but I expect that since they have gone back to guitar, bass, drums as their main sound. And in the magazine, producer Nick R even made them bring back the bass peddles.
I have not received my vinyl version yet, so maybe there will be a different sound, I'll see.
Maybe people need to be specific in how they are listening to this CD (or digital download, which might be the problem) system wise.
It is certainly not a Steven Wilson production......but it sounds pretty amazing to me.
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Horizons
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 13:29 |
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Another 5* review with no discussion of the music, lyrics, or actual album at all.
How embarrassing..
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lazland
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 13:37 |
It's the same with all new releases by such bands. It will, once we get a few more collaborator reviews, probably settle down, and at the end of the year, you will get a more representative average rating for it. Having said that, I haven't got it yet. I will wait until pay day at the end of the month. I have to say, though, that the tracks which Planet Rock on radio here have been pushing don't sound all that special to me. Perhaps it's a grower, I don't know yet.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 13:39 |
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^I wasn't blown away on first listen. I wish there was more space for songs to breathe. It's a bit relentless. More like Vapor Trails than Snakes and Arrows. Maybe it will grow on me.
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lazland
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 13:41 |
Not always a bad thing, though. Some of my favourite albums I disliked on the first couple of listens. Others which I thought, wow, become rather mediocre with more listens. This is why I never review after one or two listens, because most of the stuff here needs listening to at least a few times before you get a proper feel and appreciation.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 13:47 |
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Clockwork Angels is the best thing Rush did since Counterparts. Excellent melodies, real heavy rock drive and great production.
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Catcher10
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 15:04 |
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Having heard and seen the 2 songs performed live the past 2 yrs, those make more sense to me now. The whole storyline to me is very interesting. There are just wayyy too many albums out now which simply are not interesting at all. Albums like CA at least give you something to ponder.....It may not be as deep as say CTTE, TAAB or The Lamb, but it is different.....and that's what I like.
What has been very good are all the band interviews published that discuss the songs and meanings, lyrics don't always do a good job of that.
Even Neil Peart mentions that in one interview in the magazine, something like lyrics are not that important if you can hear the band has done a good job on the others, meaning music. I got the impression he is not all that concerned with them since his thoughts will be interpreted so differently by all...but him.
I am still listening and trying to understand a lot of it, it certainly is a change from the past few albums.....which to me is good. I always accept music for what it is....entertainment...and I am very entertained by this album.
It is in my top 5
1) Hemispheres
2) Moving Pictures
3) Clockwork Angels
4) A Farewell to Kings
5) 2112
** Of course subject to change at any moment
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darkshade
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 15:21 |
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 15:42 |
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I think Counterparts and Snakes and Arrows are better than CA. :\
Caravan, The Garden, and Clockwork Angels are career peaks though. Edited by Horizons - June 13 2012 at 15:42 |
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richardh
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 16:03 |
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I downloaded and had my first listen tonight. Its very much what you would expect.Rush are just a very professional and consistent band but nothing they now do is remotely inspired. Doesn't stop me wanting to listen to them though. As a heavy rock album I would rate it 4-5 stars. As a prog album its about 2-3 stars.
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 16:14 |
Exactly this (except for the diehard fan part) |
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: June 13 2012 at 18:38 |
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Only my first listen, so I'll need time to let it sink in, but I don't get the hype about it being a masterpiece, or in their top five albums, or anything. It's good, as is usual for Rush. The only track I would really call "prog" is the title track (not as if that's a bad thing, I don't see this as a return to their progressive composition days, though).
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 01:50 |
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I like it a lot. Its certainly the best Rush record since "Counterparts". I wouldn't call it one of my favorites, but I've been listening to Rush for a long time. Only after a few listens and time to sink in will I be able to tell you my opinion of its place in Rush's extended career. I do think it has a chance to be 'one of my favorites'. I also hope to catch their gig in Pittsburgh so that will undoubtedly shape my opinion on the record.
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 02:20 |
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Definitely the best since Counterparts, Headlong Flight, Seven Cities Of Gold, The Garden, Caravan and The Anarchist are brilliant, but some poor tracks like The Wreckers and Wish Them Well drag it down a bit. Still non of them are as bad as the bad tracks from Snakes And Arrows. (Good News First... Ew)
Solid 4 stars from me at the moment, but I don't really like the production as well, it sounds really muddy in the busiest sections.
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 02:40 |
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It's an amazing album, IMO. And that's all there is to say.
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 02:44 |
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I did a review that pretty much says everything. Although I rated it 4/5, but really it's a 3.5 (or 7/10). Why does JA get .5s and we don't? |
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SharkZ
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 02:48 |
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Because it's newer and easier to do there without pissing off hundreds who never visit the site anymore anyways
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 09:31 |
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My first impression wasn't very positive, but I'll try and give it some time.
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 09:35 |
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Two listens now. Don't think I like it that much
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Posted: June 14 2012 at 09:38 |
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^ uh-oh
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