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Van der Graaf Generator vs Pink Floyd

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    Posted: April 02 2013 at 22:27
I love VdGG to death, but Floyd wins this by a long shot.

EDIT: Good heavens, I just discovered that I voted in this pole a year ago.  And it was for VdGG!  Evidently my feelings have changed a great deal since then.


Edited by Mr. Maestro - April 02 2013 at 22:29
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I would have picked VdGG as a teenager, but later discovering early Floyd up to but
not including Dark Side of the Moon, made me pick Floyd.  

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Floyd, by several light years.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Varon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2013 at 08:42
Originally posted by Roj

Floyd, by several light years.
. . .behind... 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Roj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2013 at 11:31
Originally posted by Varon

Originally posted by Roj

Floyd, by several light years.
. . .behind... 

 
Erm, no.  To put it mildly.
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I love both for different reasons, but voted for VDGG.  

Pink Floyd is way more polished, better produced, and obviously gets the award for better guitar solos, but Hugh Banton is one of my favorite kybd players & PH has one of, if not the most incredible voices in prog (not to mention rock) history.  Pink Floyd wins the nod for being more psychedelic and spacey, but I go with VDGG and the doom and gloom combo of Hugh's organ and PH's voice.
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Pink Floyd, for as many reasons as Pink Floyd have albums.

I mean, VDGG are great, evidently, but Pink Floyd is Pink Floyd !
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I can't vote, but VdGG, and it's not even close.

I'll never understand the appeal of Pink Floyd tbh, Piper at the Gates of Dawn is their only album that I like from start to finish, almost everything post-Barrett sounds bland and lifeless to me.... I've tried so many times, but with the exception of a couple of trakcs here and there (like Echoes and Wish You Were Here), I just don't get it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Josef_K Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2013 at 04:35
Originally posted by kit-kat

I can't vote, but VdGG, and it's not even close.

I'll never understand the appeal of Pink Floyd tbh, Piper at the Gates of Dawn is their only album that I like from start to finish, almost everything post-Barrett sounds bland and lifeless to me.... I've tried so many times, but with the exception of a couple of trakcs here and there (like Echoes and Wish You Were Here), I just don't get it.
 
Does the track "Saucerful of Secrets" really sound bland and lifeless to you? :S Well, everyone's entitled to an opinion...
 
Anyway, I can't vote in this poll at the moment, the Floyd have more great albums but I just can't force myself to vote against a band that wrote songs like "Still Life", "Man-Erg", "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" and so many more which just make me feel that, while listening to them, there is no place on earth I'd rather be.
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Voted for PF. It's great for art to be challenging and unconventional but it has to be pleasant to the senses and the brain too. I love and admire VdGG but (while they have truly amazing stuff, don't get me wrong) sometimes their artistry seems a bit forced.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2013 at 05:42
In my All-time Top 10 'Meddle' sits at #1 and 'H to He Who Am The Only One' sits at #2. I cannot see anything changing that. ('Relayer' is #3 btw).


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VDGG by far.  Ah if Syd remained, my vote would be maybe different.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kit-kat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2013 at 13:53
Originally posted by Josef_K

Originally posted by kit-kat

I can't vote, but VdGG, and it's not even close.

I'll never understand the appeal of Pink Floyd tbh, Piper at the Gates of Dawn is their only album that I like from start to finish, almost everything post-Barrett sounds bland and lifeless to me.... I've tried so many times, but with the exception of a couple of trakcs here and there (like Echoes and Wish You Were Here), I just don't get it.
 
Does the track "Saucerful of Secrets" really sound bland and lifeless to you? :S Well, everyone's entitled to an opinion...
 
Anyway, I can't vote in this poll at the moment, the Floyd have more great albums but I just can't force myself to vote against a band that wrote songs like "Still Life", "Man-Erg", "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" and so many more which just make me feel that, while listening to them, there is no place on earth I'd rather be.

That's why I said almost everything (never listened to Saucerful that much though, it's decent from what I remember, needs another listen); I do like some of their material, but the problem I've always had with Floyd is that most of the time they fail to move me or leave any lasting impression on me because most of their material just feels really cold and distant to me and lacks any real emotional punch... I find it hard to explain, but how they managed to became so huge worldwide always baffled me because I've always found it very difficult to get into their music, even the songs I can say I sort of like now took me an insane amount of time to grow on me (again, there are a couple of exceptions -'Wish You Were Here' is the one I have to mention again, I think it might be my favorite Floyd song as cliché as that is, but that song instantly clicked with me, it really is just nice and pretty and makes me feel something that's not boredom and indifference).  l think they were never particularly good with melodies and their instrumental passages are mostly meandering and frankly just... dull. I was never a fan of Gilmour's singing either (Waters is even worse).
It's actually quite odd that I find their most popular albums the most difficult to get into, I've been listening to them a lot lately but it looks like I'm not gonna change my mind any time soon... I gave another spin to DSOTM this morning, I must have heard it dozens of times already, but 'Time' is still the only song I really like on it, the rest is just incredibly uneven and honestly doesn't do much for me. WYWH has the title track, 'Shine on' is decent but really not that great and I could have done without the second part, the other two songs are among the worst things in their catalogue ('Welcome to the Machine' is everything I don't like about them and that melody is absolutely trite). 
And don't get me started on The Wall... 90% filler, 10% of actual substance and waaay too much of Waters for my liking.

Sorry Floyd fans, I've been trying, but Piper is their only album I truly like and Meddle is very good, the rest I could take or leave, I guess they just aren't for me. At least we can agree on VdGG (except for the part about Floyd having more great albums). Wink
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Van der Graaf Generator, definitely. Reasons:
Hammill > any PF vocalist
Hammill > Waters (lyrics)
Banton > Wright (though it's not really fair, because Banton is almost strictly an organ player)
Evans > Mason
to hell with the guitars, saxophone rules!
VdGG emotion > PF emotion
it's cooler if you like VdGG more because they're more obscure
etc.
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Cooler ...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kit-kat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2013 at 15:03
Originally posted by mister nobody

Van der Graaf Generator, definitely. Reasons:
Hammill > any PF vocalist
Hammill > Waters (lyrics)
Banton > Wright (though it's not really fair, because Banton is almost strictly an organ player)
Evans > Mason
to hell with the guitars, saxophone rules!
VdGG emotion > PF emotion
it's cooler if you like VdGG more because they're more obscure
etc.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2013 at 15:21
Vat? No!

Hammill < Waters (lyrics)
Banton < Wright (though it's not really fair, because Banton is almost strictly an organ player)
PF atmosphere > VdGG atmosphere
PF music > VdGG music
PF production > VdGG production
The guitar >= The saxophone
PF emotion > VdGG emotion
etc.

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Edited by Dayvenkirq - April 04 2013 at 15:22
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Arrow is better than all PF tracks combined.

Come on, still no one angry?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dayvenkirq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2013 at 16:54
^ It's cranberry time: Angry 

A number of Floyd tracks, like "Dogs", can easily beat "Arrow".
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

^ It's cranberry time: Angry 

A number of Floyd tracks, like "Dogs", can easily beat "Arrow".

This got me thinking, how would I compare my top 5 VDGG tracks vs my top 5 PF tracks?
 
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers  >  Echoes
White Hammer >  See Emily Play
La Rossa > One Slip
Man Erg  > Time
Octopus < Comfortably Numb

VDGG 4 vs PF 1...that's why I voted for VDGG.



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