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    Posted: June 19 2012 at 21:43
I think it is fairly normal to not "get" an album right in the first listen, but recently I've been experiencing something that's, at the very least, unusual: wile going back to albums I absolutely LOVE, I had to go through them a second time to digest them all over again, even though I've listened to some of them to death! (examples: metropolis 2: Scenes from a Memory, Human Equation, Into the Electric Castle, Anno Domini High Definition, Second Life Syndrome, Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, [Eloy's] Ocean and Dawn).

Have something similar ever happened to you guys?
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Not related to the topic of the thread, but I just have to say that the Pink Floyd Rarity in your sig is awesome.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CCVP Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2012 at 22:19
Originally posted by Cthulhu42

Not related to the topic of the thread, but I just have to say that the Pink Floyd Rarity in your sig is awesome.

lol, thanks.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Progosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 00:03
It used to happen to me more often in the past, where I would have to listen to an album perhaps 10 times to even start to be able to distinguish one song from another and really hear what is going on with all of them.  That was mostly in my teen years and early 20s.  More recently, though, I can tell if I will get into an album after one or two listens if I don't get it at first.  If it intrigues me or I just flat our enjoy it, I will want to listen to it and get to know it better.  If it does not interest me, I will not give it my time.  I have tried too hard too many times to enjoy something that just did not click with me.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote npjnpj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 06:39
Not quite clear on what happened. Was it like you'd never heard them before, or did you just need time to get back into them?

And how long hadn't you listened to them?

Anyhow, in the first case: no, that's never happened to me. In the second case: Yes, it happens a lot.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote colorofmoney91 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 06:49
Originally posted by CCVP

Originally posted by Cthulhu42

Not related to the topic of the thread, but I just have to say that the Pink Floyd Rarity in your sig is awesome.

lol, thanks.


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But I've never had this problem before. When I have absorbed an album completely, I pretty much know the entire thing by heart and never have to digest it again.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rogerthat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 07:46
Nope, cannot think of when something like this happened to me.  What has happened pretty often is I ended up discovering some other aspects of a favourite album that I hadn't noticed before and liked it more for that reason.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tamijo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 08:54
To me nothing is static, my listning experience changes all the time
Albums can be fantastic for a period, then they just need a break, and sometimes i love listning to albums, i would consider 2-3 stars, they just fit the mood of the day, perfect. 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote xTheSpectreWithinx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 13:53
what I find happening to me is I will not listen to an album forever, that I did listen to alot, and go back and think:" Man, this was a HUGE part of my life...why did I let it go?"
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I know what you mean, it happens often actually.  I've noticed it really depends on my mood and whether or not my mind is free enough of any serious trains of thought to fully process something new.  I used to listen to all my Yes records while playing Diablo and Diablo 2, but I didn't fully appreciate them until I moved to a new apartment and had time to lay on the couch and absorb the album art and lyrics while really focusing in on everything.  Surprisingly, it just happened again a couple days ago.  South Side of the Sky just popped into my head but it was like I was hearing it for the first time, even though I'd listened to it dozens of times before.  I immediately put it on and found that I'd never picked up on just how heavy and commanding the song was.  It's now officially my favorite Yes song.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CCVP Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 15:53
Originally posted by npjnpj

Not quite clear on what happened. Was it like you'd never heard them before, or did you just need time to get back into them?

And how long hadn't you listened to them?

Anyhow, in the first case: no, that's never happened to me. In the second case: Yes, it happens a lot.

No, it's the first case.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Master of Time Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 17:59
Originally posted by colorofmoney91

Originally posted by CCVP

Originally posted by Cthulhu42

Not related to the topic of the thread, but I just have to say that the Pink Floyd Rarity in your sig is awesome.

lol, thanks.


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For me, that happens when my listening habits change.

I listened to PF before I really got into prog, and after I had listened to a bunch of other bands for a year and trained myself to really (really) listen, PF sounded like it was brand new.

Now that I'm studying theory more and listening to classical, I'm paying much more attention to harmonic structures, modulations, motifs, etc. 

I think it could be a similar thing with you; what do you think?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote -Radioswim- Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2012 at 22:56
ummm.... I'm sorry, but at the same time I'm jelous, but I've never had the privilege of experiancing scenes from a memory all over again.... Cry I litterally cry at the thought that it's possible.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hercules Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2012 at 17:15
I have recently acquired some really wonderful 180g vinyl albums, some pressed from the original masters and, even though I knew the albums inside out (or thought I did), I'm discovering new textures, layers and nuances in the playing which have raised the music to stratospheric levels of excellence.
 
Argus has benefited enormously; the guitar interplay is truly breathtaking.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CCVP Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2012 at 21:38
Originally posted by -Radioswim-

ummm.... I'm sorry, but at the same time I'm jelous, but I've never had the privilege of experiancing scenes from a memory all over again.... Cry I litterally cry at the thought that it's possible.

LOL, thanks. And indeed, it was pretty impressive.Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JS19 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2012 at 08:28
Definitely - but you have to completely block an album out for quite a while to get the effect. usually it's because you listened to it so much you ran it into the ground, and when you come back to it it's like you're hearing it for the first time.

Pretty cool....
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Originally posted by Hercules

I have recently acquired some really wonderful 180g vinyl albums, some pressed from the original masters and, even though I knew the albums inside out (or thought I did), I'm discovering new textures, layers and nuances in the playing which have raised the music to stratospheric levels of excellence.
 
Argus has benefited enormously; the guitar interplay is truly breathtaking.


Can I ask where you got the master repressings?  I get a biannual catalog from Music Direct that offers them, but I don't think I've ever seen any Wishbone Ash in there - I bet Argus sounds incredible!  Turner and Powell are probably my favorite duo.
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Hi,
 
Not really ... I have always been a fairly good music listener, which came from the amount of classical music we had in our house and knowing/understanding ... about "details" in the music, that supposedly represent this and that ... so by the time I started hearing/listening to the pop music stuff ... the very first thing I noticed was that most pop music was just 2 or 3 lines of music on a staff ... most classical music had 20 or 30 ... an orchestra sometimes 50 or 60 ... and the details in the music are much more interesting than the simplistic and sometimes silly and stupid stuff that you geet in most pop music, and most progressive music ... the talent of which to put it together is minimal when you consider that most of it is an effect, and not the playing!
 
All in all, for example, I remember way back when already knowing that the American version of Sgt Peppers was crap, and I immediately bought the English Import at Tower's and several other imports ... and I knew that it was different and what the hoopla was all about. This continued up to Dark Side of the Moon, btw, that was the last LP that I could find that was different than the original ... the American version was crap compared the the English pressing.
 
Thus, in listening to some of these things, even the remastered ones, was frustrating ... all I could hear was a different effect on that part, a different sound on the other part ... sort of like the conductor changed the instrument on the 37th line of the staff from this instrument to that instrument, and the whole thing was so minor that ... only an idiot, or a conductor would be able to catch it!
 
All in all, it's mostly about how much attention and detail you give it the first listen, in my experience. The original "visual" and "colors" I got rarely change ... what changes is MY OWN landscape reacting to the piece ... which is VASTLY different to the original sight ... you have got to KNOW about that ... when you are listening to something new ... is it "you" ... or is it the "music" that is affecting you ... as that objectivity will allow you to know what is working or not. If you do not do that, you will just have a subjective review that says ... not prog, and it's missing this or that ... blah and blah ... and it is very obvious that the person is not really listening to the work at all! He/she is comparing it to their ideas only!


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