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BassoonAng
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Topic: Cheesy Prog is....??Posted: July 24 2012 at 00:46 |
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Yeah, I didn't live the era, so there isn't a man I wouldn't kill for a ticket to a live Supper's Ready with the classic lineup. |
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cstack3
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Posted: July 24 2012 at 02:17 |
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Get thee to a Musical Box gig!! I saw them perform "The Lamb," it was remarkable! Here's a taste: Edited by cstack3 - July 24 2012 at 15:23 |
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BassoonAng
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Posted: July 24 2012 at 02:51 |
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Ugh, I've been wanting to, but school's had me locked up last time it looked right. |
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martinprog77
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Posted: July 24 2012 at 18:56 |
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IMO if you listen just that track it is kind of cheesy ,but if you listen the whole song is fantastic or listen the whole thing without 'Dancing With Eternal Glory' and the song feels incomplete
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Posted: July 24 2012 at 19:26 |
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perfect for you '' BRAIN SALAD ,FISH ,GLASS ONIONS AND TORMATO '
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kingesis
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Posted: July 27 2012 at 14:18 |
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Supertramp maybe is cheesy prog, the band has a lot of cheesy songs especially in Breakfast in America
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Posted: July 27 2012 at 14:21 |
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Yep. |
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Posted: July 27 2012 at 14:49 |
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I've always wondered what you would get if you put The Muppets, Slade, and Pink Floyd into a blender, and now, thanks to the Big Elf video posted earlier, I've found out. Thank You - er...
or maybe that should be no thank you. I'd better check out some of their other stuff, as I havn't heard anything else from them (only written interviews), and this vid may not be completely typical (hopefully) of what they do.
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Posted: July 27 2012 at 16:45 |
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I've never thought so, but I can kind of see it... |
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Ytse_Jam
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Posted: July 27 2012 at 17:48 |
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If this is right, then I would say that cheese is freakin good!
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cstack3
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Posted: July 28 2012 at 00:25 |
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Hah!! You are very welcome!! I've suffered through not one, but TWO Big Elf performances in Chicago, opening for Dream Theater once, and Porcupine Tree (I think) the other time. UGH!! They certainly tried hard, but..... Music to cause headaches, not recommended.
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Posted: July 28 2012 at 00:28 |
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Welcome to PA!! Indeed, I forgot how cheesy Supertramp can be! Plaintive wailing vocals, repetitive electric piano, insipid lyrics...."Dreamer" is rather cheesy! And yet, I find them compelling at some level. The musicianship is sublime.
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Posted: July 28 2012 at 00:44 |
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Big Elf sound a lot of fun, bit like Ozzy Sabbath. They can't possibly be serious about it...just intentionally over the top Sabbath/70s rock worship. Nothing particularly interesting in terms of originality...in fact, Mad Hatter blatantly borrows from Another Brick in the Wall Pt2. But this is not my kind of cheese...I mean, not the kind that makes me cringe. But maybe they do sound terrible live.
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cstack3
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Posted: July 28 2012 at 13:34 |
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Dude, they are SO freakin' loud!! And I never did care for the sound of grinding, distorted Mellotron (keyboard elf plays two at the same time). True prog cheese as I tried to define it when I posted this thread. If you have to try that hard to be prog, ya ain't prog!! |
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Posted: July 28 2012 at 21:14 |
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Yeah, I guess I don't mind the loud part at all. It's cheesy in an over the top heavy metal kind of way, which I like in small doses. They also didn't sound prog to me from any point of view so I wasn't thinking about that. It sounded like a hotchpotch of Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Deep Purple, Queen.
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cstack3
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Posted: July 29 2012 at 00:12 |
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OK, from that perspective, I got ya! Alice was damn cheesy....the greasy makeup, feather (or real) boa, etc. But man, it was POWERFUL stuff live! Saw him on the School's Out tour (original classic lineup, what a sight!!) and a later tour, in 1988 (it was his 40th birthday that day, he put on one hell of a show!) Not all cheese is bad, but the music better have some redeeming qualities! There was so much "grind" in the mix for Big Elf that it was hard to appreciate, since I was there for Dream Theater! However, they have their fans, so I tip my hat!! I was in a Spinal Tap cover band once, we SPECIALIZED in cheese!
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Posted: July 29 2012 at 00:16 |
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I read some comments in those clips suggesting that they are not very good live and I can imagine cheese CAN give headaches if it is not pulled off well.
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el böthy
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Posted: July 29 2012 at 12:25 |
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There is no cheese in King Crimson, they are the definition of cheeseless music
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Posted: July 29 2012 at 18:14 |
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^ "Indoor Games" or "Happy Family"?
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cstack3
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Posted: July 30 2012 at 16:47 |
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hmmmm....I think I have to agree, although Fripp's rather blatant ripping off of Gustav Holst's "Mars" for "The Devil's Triangle" was a rather cheesy thing to do! Cheese by deed rather than cheese by music....oh well, hey ho!
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