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    Posted: July 14 2012 at 21:38
Okay, so I have a question that I was hoping could be answered, although, it's all opinions.  What I was curious about with TMV was, I have their first two albums, and quite honestly, I can't get into them.  I'm all for chaotic music, but those two albums are just a little much for me.  Now, I've heard snippets of their other four albums and I like what I hear.  Strange, slowed down, kinda surreal.  Is their sound pretty much different in their first two albums compared to the last four? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Anthony H. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2012 at 21:48
The Bedlam is Goliath is their fourth album and also their most chaotic. Much more so than the first two.

Octohedron, their fifth, is quite mellow. I would recommend checking it out.

Noctourniquet features a good combination of mellow and heavy moments.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Luna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2012 at 21:48
Their most recent I think would be the most accessible, while still having the trademark weirdness, but they're normally hit or miss.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 14 2012 at 22:17
The first 4 albums are more similar to each other, with the chaos and insanity peaking at Bedlam In Goliath. You might be interested in checking out their 2 most recent albums.
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Yep, check out the new one.
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Noctourniquet is the best album of their that isn't really hectic. The accessibility is warm and the songs' quality are much higher than the ones found on Octahedron. If you ease up on Noct. i'd advise returning to Deloused in the Comatorium honestly. If you still can't get into it then Octahedron and Frances are your next two stops. 
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I liked the first 2. Then their sound started rubbing me the wrong way.
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De-loused was fine, then Frances and the next 2 really put me off, way too much info crammed into the mix till i got a headache hahah
 
i didnt hear Octahedron, but i do like Noctruniquet, just the right balance bet chaos and melody
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I am the only person on this forum who likes The Bedlam In Goliath.

Then again, I'm a bit of a weirdo.


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Bedlam is great, just the complete opposite of what he wants. LOL
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I like Bedlam too. I listened to it a lot when it came out.
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Just listen to Frances the Mute until it's burned into your brain. Trust me, it's worth it
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First 3 are great but after that I can take them or leave them and I can't get away with the new one at all. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gerinski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2012 at 15:19
I'm in the same situation as yourself, I have only their first 2 and although I find them interesting (for lack of a better word...) they did not excite me enough as to make me spend more money on their other albums.
 
I like Deloused slightly better than Frances but I like them both, it's just that when it comes to choosing music to spend my money in, other TMV albums are not high enough in the wishlist.
 
For the comments I don't think i will be thrilled by Bedlam but I might like Octohedron and Noctourniquet. Maybe some day...
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Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

First 3 are great but after that I can take them or leave them and I can't get away with the new one at all. 

Get away with the new one? You mean you keep listening to it? Or you're trying to escape it? 
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Based on Frances The Mute I would probably define TMV as brilliant musicians that give me a headache. That said I did rate it 5 stars (maybe because I didn't want to feel left outEmbarrassed) . One of those bands I will just file under 'I wish I could like them a lot more than I actually do'.

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Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

I am the only person on this forum who likes The Bedlam In Goliath.

Then again, I'm a bit of a weirdo.
 
You are not the only one, I like everything they did, Bedlam is a split no.1, with the debut. 
 
NB: For me, if an album is easy to get into, as in I love it at first sight, 80% says its forgetable, and im not comming back to it much, after a few months. 


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My favorite album is Amputechture which was not mentioned here, but by what you're looking for I agree with the rest, go for Noctourniquet which is really superb or Octahedron which IMO is their weakest. They are worth getting into, that's for sure.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I would probably define TMV as brilliant musicians that give me a headache.
LOL  quite--   all I know is I didn't care for that live album

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Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

I am the only person on this forum who likes The Bedlam In Goliath.

Then again, I'm a bit of a weirdo.
 
You are not the only one, I like everything they did, Bedlam is a split no.1, with the debut. 
 
NB: For me, if an album is easy to get into, as in I love it at first sight, 80% says its forgetable, and im not comming back to it much, after a few months. 

The first half of Bedlam is the best 40min of music I think I have ever heard. The second half is good but not great. Frances The Mute embodies everything I love about music. I know ever second of that album. Pure genius.

Rest of the albums vary from 'good' (Amputechture, Deloused) to 'great' (Octahedron, Noctourniquet).
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