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    Posted: July 19 2012 at 17:50
On July 19th 1972 Bill Bruford left Yes and joined King Crimson:


''Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.''

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2012 at 18:16
Smartest decision he made.
Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2012 at 18:34

I'm glad he left. he was vital in making some of the best Yes albums ever, but without him we woulden't have such great KC albums such as red and Three of a Perfect Pair Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2012 at 18:45
I'm not so sure, really, if I prefer his leaving Yes or not... I guess I'll never truly know. What he achieved with King Crimson was great, and indeed his playing in King Crimson was even more amazing than in Yes. But then, some of my favourite albums ever are Fragile and Close to the Edge, and I might wonder if they might have come closer to that again if he had stayed... or at least if the next 2 or 3 albums might have had much better drumming (imagine Relayer with Bruford on Drums). Still, perhaps Bruford was right when he said Yes had reached their height with CttE, and he couldn't achieve much more by staying in the band. However, we must enjoy what we do have, and that's a bunch of really awsome albums, both by King Crimson and Yes, with and without Bruford.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2012 at 18:49
For me both bands benefited.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2012 at 18:57
Damn! Talk about some people here feeling old.
 
Guess I'll have to play some Bruford KC to commemorate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2012 at 20:35
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Smartest decision he made.

Approve Austin, I totally agree. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Yes, but it always seemed Bruford was held back in Yes, not to mention him and Squire never got along. In fact, I heard somewhere they borderline got into a fistfight on stage over some disagreement. Squire's a bit of hothead though, that's not really a surprise. In King Crimson though, that's where Bruford really let loose and showed off his unique style and approach. The partnership between Bill and David Muir on Larks' is extraordinary. Larks' to Three Of A Perfect Pair - inspiration drum records.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 01:53

The line up that made CTTE and Fragile was pretty much untouchable. In a way Bruford leaving because Yes had reached its peak was a self fulfilling prophecy. For me Yes were never as good again although they made several more excellent albums after his departure with various different line ups.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 13:15
The two bands should have merged.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 15:38
I can't imagine Jon Anderson singing Schizoid Man or songs like Exiles or Starless.

And I DEFINITELY can't imagine John Wetton singing songs like Close To The Edge or Roundabout!

Would have been interesting to see what King Yes would have come up with though....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 17:40
Wetton era Crimson is overrated. I'd rather him in Yes because Yes made all their best albums while Bruford was there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 17:51
Why want him there if he wanted to leave. He is an artist, not a sparepart. 

Edited by tamijo - July 20 2012 at 17:52
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 17:58
He moved to a band which wouldn't let him use cymbals because the guitarist didn't think he could hear his guitar well enough
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 18:00
He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 
Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 19:50
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 
 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 20:09
Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 
 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


You're right. Songs like Starless, Frakture, and Red are not well composed pieces of music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 20:13
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 
 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


You're right. Songs like Starless, Frakture, and Red are not well composed pieces of music.
 
Only 3 songs from about 20 from that era you can mention? Frakture is pretty repetitive really. Starless and Red are the best tracks from that album, but I don't go crazy over them like most do in here
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 20:25
Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

He moved to a better band, for him and in general. I think that's pretty smart. 
 
From a band who could compose to a band who couldn't really compose. Not better for me Smile


You're right. Songs like Starless, Frakture, and Red are not well composed pieces of music.
 
Only 3 songs from about 20 from that era you can mention? Frakture is pretty repetitive really. Starless and Red are the best tracks from that album, but I don't go crazy over them like most do in here


Yes, because I didn't feel like listing every song that King Crimson has created that is well composed. I ain't got that kind of time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 20:51
Originally posted by BlackenedGass BlackenedGass wrote:

I can't imagine Jon Anderson singing Schizoid Man or songs like Exiles or Starless
I wonder how he'd sound singing "Lizard".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2012 at 21:13
Originally posted by Adams Bolero Adams Bolero wrote:

On July 19th




2007 my first child was born.

More important to me.
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