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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 17:41 |
The Geese and the Ghost is obviously boring for not having any metal tracks in it. However if one of the songs could be remade as metallic, which one?
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Raccoon
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 17:28 |
I actually thought this topic would easily die out fast, but it's definitely lasting longer than expected. Even if you don't know the Private Parts & Pieces, you can still have mad respect for Anthony just by The Geese & The Ghost. Everyone should own that album.
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Raccoon
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 17:25 |
Hawkwise wrote:
The Geese and the Ghost is one off my ALL time fav
albums in the top ten off all time fav,s for shore. also like to spin
Sides ones in awhile to. The Geese and the Ghost is a 5 star must have
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Can't stop watching your signature picture, it's hypnotizing how many amazing albums are in there
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Hawkwise
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 17:22 |
The Geese and the Ghost is one off my ALL time fav albums in the top ten off all time fav,s for shore. also like to spin Sides ones in awhile to. The Geese and the Ghost is a 5 star must have album.
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Raccoon
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 17:19 |
Master of Time wrote:
I'd also like to comment that Trespass is my number two favorite prog album of all-time. |
Very nice choice! Stagnation goes down as one of my FAVORITE Genesis songs, and that's saying something.
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Mirror Image
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 17:18 |
Master of Time wrote:
I'd also like to comment that Trespass is my number two favorite prog album of all-time. |
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Master of Time
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 17:17 |
I'd also like to comment that Trespass is my number two favorite prog album of all-time.
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Mirror Image
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 16:37 |
Raccoon wrote:
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It's definitely a one-of-a-kind album from Anthony. The only thing similar with that album and his others, is his unique guitar-playing. But a great place to start. That's where I, and I'm sure MANY others started. Actually, I suppose Wise After The Event is similar in the aspect that there's lyrics.
Then if you like what you hear, perhaps head over to Slow Dance. Has that calm, relaxing feel while still being pure proggy bliss. Much like Geese
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Cool, yeah, I've read many mentions of Slow Dance. I read it was really good. Thanks for your feedback.
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Raccoon
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 16:04 |
Mirror Image wrote:
I've always admired Phillips' work on Genesis' Trespass. I haven't followed his solo career at all and bought my first Phillips album a couple of days ago: The Geese and the Ghost. Looking forward to hearing it. Many claim this is his finest effort. |
It's definitely a one-of-a-kind album from Anthony. The only thing similar with that album and his others, is his unique guitar-playing. But a great place to start. That's where I, and I'm sure MANY others started. Actually, I suppose Wise After The Event is similar in the aspect that there's lyrics. Then if you like what you hear, perhaps head over to Slow Dance. Has that calm, relaxing feel while still being pure proggy bliss. Much like Geese
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Mirror Image
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 15:26 |
I've always admired Phillips' work on Genesis' Trespass. I haven't followed his solo career at all and bought my first Phillips album a couple of days ago: The Geese and the Ghost. Looking forward to hearing it. Many claim this is his finest effort.
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Raccoon
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 15:05 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I kind of figured it was unavoidable. The technical explanation is interesting. Maybe if he used lard on his fingers it might help...
It's kind of cool when I put it into words you know exactly what I was talking about.
I haven't noticed that as much with later albums. No doubt he was aware of it and worked to reduce the effect.
There has to be a technical term for it but I don't know what is. Steve Hackett has used it as a deliberate effect with his pick while playing electric.
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I never minded it, It had that 'natural' sound. Just straight from his guitar. Though after a while it does get a bit annoying, especially on a high volume and it distracts you from the actual song. If you listen to his piano work, that doesn't happen!! I always liked his later Private Parts (god that sounds weird to shorten it ) after A Catch At The Tables his work is solid. Always had a soft side for Dragonfly Dreams. And no sliding! I think I remember that Ivory Tower was supposed to be a joke? Don't quote me on that.. But it always sounded immensely serious. Epic. That Suite-Sea Dogs Monitoring is fantastic.
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 11:45 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I kind of figured it was unavoidable. The technical explanation is interesting. Maybe if he used lard on his fingers it might help...
It's kind of cool when I put it into words you know exactly what I was talking about.
I haven't noticed that as much with later albums. No doubt he was aware of it and worked to reduce the effect.
There has to be a technical term for it but I don't know what is. Steve Hackett has used it as a deliberate effect with his pick while playing electric.
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very true
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 11:11 |
I kind of figured it was unavoidable. The technical explanation is interesting. Maybe if he used lard on his fingers it might help... It's kind of cool when I put it into words you know exactly what I was talking about. I haven't noticed that as much with later albums. No doubt he was aware of it and worked to reduce the effect. There has to be a technical term for it but I don't know what is. Steve Hackett has used it as a deliberate effect with his pick while playing electric.
Edited by Slartibartfast - July 25 2012 at 11:36
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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TODDLER
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 10:43 |
I recall reading in the "Field Day" booklet how he damaged his left hand. To my knowledge he had been working with software and recording library music and not giving much attention to the daily routine of guitar practice. He plunged into it suddenly, playing some of the most beautiful pieces he had ever written, forcing his left hand to do long stretches and as a result had to wrap an ace around it and not go near the guitar for at least a few weeks. When he picked up the guitar again, he nailed those pieces and recorded Field Day. I believe that was the order of events ..although I haven't read the booklet in years. He is a little monster of a player. He is not a speed demon lead guitarist who attempts to impress by being all flash, but his left hand chord shapes combined with his sustaining of open strings and melodic note passages are a nightmare to play and depending on what specific piece you choose to learn. Some pieces sound very pretty and people get the impression that they are easy to play...but it's not true at all.
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 09:52 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I will offer up a criticism and it is that scricking sound when you're sliding your fingers along the wound strings.
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It happens mostly on the steel string acoustic guitar. I've always had that problem. When he switches his chords, he is basically leaving a position where his fingers appear to be almost twisted. If he releases his fingers before changing to the next chord, ..he might actually fumble. Some of the open strings must be sustained during the chord change or the piece will not sound right. The second chord he is switching to is a 6 or 7 fret stretch...so he slides his hand and fingers to the next position creating an annoying scricking sound. At first, I didn't understand why he was doing this? However..some of his pieces are a nightmare from hell. I noticed right away how I couldn't keep my fingers from creating the scricking sound. Although I was able to at times. It's the style and fingering of his pieces that almost force your hand to do that. It's very strange because when you play Gary Green or Steve Howe's acoustic pieces , your hand is not automatically forced to create that annoying sound. This is hilarious...that you brought this particular detail up!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 09:22 |
I will offer up a criticism and it is that scricking sound when you're sliding your fingers along the wound strings.
Edited by Slartibartfast - July 25 2012 at 09:22
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 09:11 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
My favorite album so far next to TG&TG is the PPP III with Enrique Barro Garcia.
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That's an interesting album of guitar duets. The writing is excellent.
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 09:09 |
Raccoon wrote:
Honestly once I tried out some of Ant's Private Parts & Pieces, I was hooked. And I got them all. Including HIS WHOLE DISCOGRAPHY. So he's now one of my favorite artists. (artist? I guess you'd call him an artist)
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I have those as well. I liked playing that series, sitting in my cottage drinking coffee and staring out the window.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 09:06 |
My favorite album so far next to TG&TG is the PPP III with Enrique Barro Garcia.
Edited by Slartibartfast - July 25 2012 at 09:06
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TODDLER
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Posted: July 25 2012 at 09:04 |
First stumbled upon the "Geese and the Ghost" in an old "Listening Booth" record store back in the late 70's sonny? I read the credits and bought the LP. Collected every LP upon it's release and then in the digital age, I collected almost all of his works. I love "Tarka" and "Field Day". Some of his acoustic pieces along with the frightning fingering stretches will bust your left hand in half I love his early releases that feature old members of King Crimson. I still have the old VH1 special he hosted in the 80's. He plays the music of Penguin Cafe Orchestra and others. He tells the old stories of his life in Genesis, pronouncing their name "Ga-knee-sis" He mentions 1 particular gig where the band played on a huge stage outside for 1 person. He says that after their first number, Peter Gabriel turned to the 1 and only person in the audience and said..."Any requests?" He performs 2 of his original compositions on Classical guitar.
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