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    Posted: August 02 2012 at 07:32
Top 10

10 Moving Pictures
9 Red
8 Hemispheres
7 Selling England By The Pound
6 In the court of the Crimson King
5 The Lamb Lies down on Broadway
4 Dark Side of the Moon
3 Close to the Edge
2 2112
1 Scenes From a Memory

With 3 Rush, 2 King Crimson, 2 Genesis, 1 Pink Floyd, 1 Yes, 1 Dream Theater it is kind of a typical list really for us old proggers. You knew DSOTM, LLDOB, CTTE and ITCOTCK would be there


I agree with Moving Pictures, DSOTM, SEBTP, CTTE, and SFAM and it is a pretty good list al things considered. It would be better if they settles with only 1 album per artist as they tend to hog the list. 


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No votes for Tull, ELP..

and Dream Theater wins the poll.

I've never read RS. Doubt I ever will.

Mind you, at least DSOTM isn't number one. Now, that would be predictable, and at least they gave prog rock some page space. I had thought RS disliked anything imaginative, with a vengeance.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dtguitarfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2012 at 13:15
Yes! That's awesome. I like everything on the list, though I might have a different top ten, myself, but I especially like SFaM at the top. It DOES deserve 1st and PA can eat it.
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Top prog albums according to Rolling Stones' readers?
Isn't that an oxymoron in itself?

It's like getting PA collaborators to compile a list of the best Dub-step records...  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rushfan4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2012 at 13:29
Not enough Rush albums in the list.  Should be at least 10 in the list. Stern Smile

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I guess that I should not be surprised considering that it is from Rolling Stone magazine. They are the last bunch that should be writing about prog.

 

There are many fine albums on the list, but to not have “Brain Salad Surgery” or “Thick as a Brick” on the list is a crime.

 

I love how they took the subtitle of La Villa Strangiato as Rush admitting that they were too self indulgent. Funny, I always thought that was a jab at critics, such as those from Rolling Stone, who always criticized them as being such. Of course, they wouldn’t get it!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote thellama73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2012 at 14:01
Originally posted by Sympathy Orchestra

I guess that I should not be surprised considering that it is from Rolling Stone magazine. They are the last bunch that should be writing about prog.



I don't know, I can think of several magazines I would deem less qualified:
Women's Health
Guns & Ammo
Cosmopolitan
National Geographic
etc.

That being said, Rolling Stone still sucks. Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2012 at 14:09
Originally posted by thellama73

Originally posted by Sympathy Orchestra

I guess that I should not be surprised considering that it is from Rolling Stone magazine. They are the last bunch that should be writing about prog.



I don't know, I can think of several magazines I would deem less qualified:
Women's Health
Guns & Ammo
Cosmopolitan
National Geographic
etc.

That being said, Rolling Stone still sucks. Tongue


Ahhh come on man! It would be awesome to have Guns & Ammo compile such a list...

Oh and I agree, Rolling Stone does suck - at least after 1971. 
Poignant to the bone rock journalism - leading the free world into the vast oceans of rock?
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Justin Timberlake - Rolling Stone Magazine [United States] (25 December 2003)

The magazine has obviously evolved quite a bit eh...
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Originally posted by dtguitarfan

Yes! That's awesome. I like everything on the list, though I might have a different top ten, myself, but I especially like SFaM at the top. It DOES deserve 1st and PA can eat it.

There goes the crusader again... Let me ask you the following: Isn't there something odd about the #1 progressive rock album being a progressive metal album that came out some 30 years after the genre's inception and is obviously derivative of many other albums in the list? Not that it might not be a great album, but it's obvious that the only reason DT make the top spot is that they are recent and thus more popular. I'd argue that a significant percentage of the DT voters hasn't heard any other album from the list.

Originally posted by Sympathy Orchestra

I guess that I should not be surprised considering that it is from Rolling Stone magazine. They are the last bunch that should be writing about prog.


There are many fine albums on the list, but to not have “Brain Salad Surgery” or “Thick as a Brick” on the list is a crime.


It's a readers' poll. Even though it's sometimes obvious that the editors are not very familiar with the album in question, they didn't compile the list. And with a list of only ten, it's inevitable that many essential albums will not make the cut.

 

Originally posted by Sympathy Orchestra

I love how they took the subtitle of La Villa Strangiato as Rush admitting that they were too self indulgent. Funny, I always thought that was a jab at critics, such as those from Rolling Stone, who always criticized them as being such. Of course, they wouldn’t get it!

Of course they were making fun of themselves. I mean, how much more self-indulgent does it get than a multi-part suite based on Alex Lifeson's dreams?
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Why am I not surprised that the album that made #1 is the only one I don't have in my collection?

Not a knock against Dream Theater, since I've never heard any of their works, thus I can't make any judgment. How are they?
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Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha


Not a knock against Dream Theater, since I've never heard any of their works, thus I can't make any judgment. How are they?

This should start an interesting discussion..
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While I love 2112, number 2 is ridiculous. The fact that Dream Theater is there at all invalidates the list in my opinion.
How is it that the selection as # 1 album of the most popular album among readers in a list made from readers votes invalidates it?Confused

Having said that, Rolling Stone is a monument of idiocy so it's rather surprising that at least they have some of the names and bands straight....

And, having said that, I'm so happy to see DT continuing to be popular and making so many prog purists extremely unhappy...Evil Smile
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Originally posted by Horizons

Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha


Not a knock against Dream Theater, since I've never heard any of their works, thus I can't make any judgment. How are they?

This should start an interesting discussion drama..

Fixed.

As for the pool, some of it was predictable, but the amount of Rush was not. All in all, dumb top 10, PA has a fair and balanced much better selection, even though I disagree with it as well.
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Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul

Originally posted by Sympathy Orchestra

I love how they took the subtitle of La Villa Strangiato as Rush admitting that they were too self indulgent. Funny, I always thought that was a jab at critics, such as those from Rolling Stone, who always criticized them as being such. Of course, they wouldn’t get it!

Of course they were making fun of themselves. I mean, how much more self-indulgent does it get than a multi-part suite based on Alex Lifeson's dreams?


And with a musical quote from Raymond Scott of all people (who should be on PA under prog electronic.)
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Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha

Why am I not surprised that the album that made #1 is the only one I don't have in my collection?

Not a knock against Dream Theater, since I've never heard any of their works, thus I can't make any judgment. How are they?

They are Prog Metal.  Actually, they pretty much inspired almost everyone else in that sub genre who came after them.  So their existence pisses PA off.  Wink LOL
But give them a shot, and try not to judge right away - speaking as one of the "crazy" fans who thinks they are the greatest band ever, I didn't like them right away: they had to grow on me.  They do a lot of intellectual stuff that has to grow on you, I think, before you start to enjoy their music and see the heart in it.
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Originally posted by dtguitarfan

Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha

Why am I not surprised that the album that made #1 is the only one I don't have in my collection?

Not a knock against Dream Theater, since I've never heard any of their works, thus I can't make any judgment. How are they?

They are Prog Metal.  Actually, they pretty much inspired almost everyone else in that sub genre who came after them.  So their existence pisses PA off.  Wink LOL
But give them a shot, and try not to judge right away - speaking as one of the "crazy" fans who thinks they are the greatest band ever, I didn't like them right away: they had to grow on me.  They do a lot of intellectual stuff that has to grow on you, I think, before you start to enjoy their music and see the heart in it.


Notwithstanding the emoticon which may masquerade as irony, why would a band that many informed souls would concede initiated an entire sub genre on PA piss this web site off?Confused I personally loathe Dream Theater heartily, but would never castigate the band for being anything remotely approaching intellectual. You can count to 5, 7 and 9 in sync with yer buddies? That's counting matey, not impenetrable complexity.....


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Originally posted by ExittheLemming

I personally loathe Dream Theater heartily, but would never castigate the band for being anything remotely approaching intellectual. You can count to 5, 7 and 9 in sync with yer buddies? That's counting matey, not impenetrable complexity.....

More to the point, complexity and intellectuality have nothing to do with each other.  Dream Theater's music is certainly complex, but it's hardly intellectual. Which is not a judgment of quality, you don't have to be intellectual or complex to be good.
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Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha

Why am I not surprised that the album that made #1 is the only one I don't have in my collection?

Not a knock against Dream Theater, since I've never heard any of their works, thus I can't make any judgment. How are they?

They're kind of like a metal version of Kansas, if that helps.  Their music is typically structured in a traditional way, but focuses on harmonic and melodic variations in the verses.  There are heavy riffs, chugging chords, arpeggios, and blindingly fast solos.  The best parts of their music are the instrumental sections where, instead of trading off solos, all of the instruments play together.  The music is very technical and rhythmically complex.  Labrie's voice is very unique, it's love-it-or-hate-it but I personally find his vocals excellent.

The band is pretty much essential listening, even if it's not to your taste, because they are so important in the development of progressive metal.  You may not like them or the genre they spawned but you should at least hear one of their albums (if only to see what all the hype is about).  Start with Images and Words, Metropolis Part 2, or Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence.  Whatever you do, don't listen to Systematic Chaos first.
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This is the reason I am writing up my own Prog list. And I hope its more reliable than that travesty.



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