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    Posted: August 07 2012 at 23:03
Pete's bass wasn't audible on The Whirlwind??  Um, I think anyone saying that needs new ears.  

But yeah, bring on more TA, please.  But keep the lead vocal contributions of Trewavas and Portnoy to a bare minimum, and keep Gildenlow away from the project altogether until they go on the road.  The team of Stolt, Morse, Portnoy and Trewavas in the studio does not need anything or anyone else messing with that awesome chemistry. 
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Yeah, bring it on.  It's clearly on the way too.  Neal wants to do it and therefore it will happen.
 
The Whirlwind is one of the finest albums of the new millenium, so anything even close to that good and I'll be well happy.  The only problem is they'll have to prune a few "biggies" from their setlists.  Even TA won't play for four and a half hours LOL.
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Originally posted by Biff Tannen

Pete's bass wasn't audible on The Whirlwind??  Um, I think anyone saying that needs new ears.  

But yeah, bring on more TA, please.  But keep the lead vocal contributions of Trewavas and Portnoy to a bare minimum, and keep Gildenlow away from the project altogether until they go on the road.  The team of Stolt, Morse, Portnoy and Trewavas in the studio does not need anything or anyone else messing with that awesome chemistry. 

Not exactly. I just felt the bass wasnt that prominent in the album. Probably it was just me. 
And i feel trevawas should be given more lead contributions but agree portnoy should limit himself to backing duties.
Bringing Daniel in was just a hypothetical scenario just to see what he could have brought to the band.
But i doubt if Gildenlow will affect the team chemistry as he has been touring with them for a long time and he knows what to expect or what to give to the band. 
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Originally posted by Mirror Image

Originally posted by darkshade

Let us know what you think. You're really collecting the Transatlantic-related/TFK-family stuff pretty quick, I must say.
You got it. I already own the first two Transatlantic recordings, so now I'm ready to hear the newer one. Kaipa is next I suppose. Cool
And let us know if you like the final part, Dancing With Eternal Glory/Whirlwind. Judging by the survival series I'm starting to think I'm the only who likes this part Confused
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Originally posted by AlexDOM

I guess I'm one of the few who really like Flying Colors, but I would agree that Infinite Fire was the best by far and a masterpiece mini epic
 
My problem with Flying Colors is I just don't like Steve Morse's guitar playing. I've never been really impressed by it. I just don't like his harmonic language very much.

i love steve morse.  he's what makes this group different. if it had been just neal playing guitar, i wouldn't have bothered.  steve's stuff with dregs is great, but his solo stuff is touch and go.  incidentally, john petrucci says that steve is his favorite guitar player.
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Lets hope that Morse bangs his head hard enough and wakes up realising that Natural selection acting through random mutation of the gene pool.......... is clearly the most obvious reason for us being here as we are....and not some bearded sky fairy who dislikes people having sex for fun...................oh and eating fooking meat on a friday..........
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Originally posted by zumacraig

Originally posted by Mirror Image

Originally posted by AlexDOM

I guess I'm one of the few who really like Flying Colors, but I would agree that Infinite Fire was the best by far and a masterpiece mini epic
 
My problem with Flying Colors is I just don't like Steve Morse's guitar playing. I've never been really impressed by it. I just don't like his harmonic language very much.

i love steve morse.  he's what makes this group different. if it had been just neal playing guitar, i wouldn't have bothered.  steve's stuff with dregs is great, but his solo stuff is touch and go.  incidentally, john petrucci says that steve is his favorite guitar player.
 
I'm not a big Petrucci fan either. Tongue
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Originally posted by Mirror Image

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I guess I'm one of the few who really like Flying Colors, but I would agree that Infinite Fire was the best by far and a masterpiece mini epic
 
My problem with Flying Colors is I just don't like Steve Morse's guitar playing. I've never been really impressed by it. I just don't like his harmonic language very much.

i love steve morse.  he's what makes this group different. if it had been just neal playing guitar, i wouldn't have bothered.  steve's stuff with dregs is great, but his solo stuff is touch and go.  incidentally, john petrucci says that steve is his favorite guitar player.
 
I'm not a big Petrucci fan either. Tongue

ironically, pettrucci doesn't sound like morse at allBig smile
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And let us know if you like the final part, Dancing With Eternal Glory/Whirlwind. Judging by the survival series I'm starting to think I'm the only who likes this part Confused
You have support. I really like Dancing With Eternal Glory. I feel its a fitting ending
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Roine Stolt recently said on the subject "I would guess there would be stuff next year, but I can't tell if its at the beginnig or in the Summer" so summer 2013 is the longest we'll have to wait...i can live with that Smile
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Apparently, Roine said he is in contact with Neal and Mike for some new stuff. I wish they come with a tour round here in 2013. I NEED to see them live.
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Originally posted by The-Winkler

Roine Stolt recently said on the subject "I would guess there would be stuff next year, but I can't tell if its at the beginnig or in the Summer" so summer 2013 is the longest we'll have to wait...i can live with that Smile

i bet fall 2013 for album.  roine will probably put out three albums in the meantime!
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Originally posted by zumacraig

Originally posted by Mirror Image

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Originally posted by Mirror Image

Originally posted by AlexDOM

I guess I'm one of the few who really like Flying Colors, but I would agree that Infinite Fire was the best by far and a masterpiece mini epic
 
My problem with Flying Colors is I just don't like Steve Morse's guitar playing. I've never been really impressed by it. I just don't like his harmonic language very much.

i love steve morse.  he's what makes this group different. if it had been just neal playing guitar, i wouldn't have bothered.  steve's stuff with dregs is great, but his solo stuff is touch and go.  incidentally, john petrucci says that steve is his favorite guitar player.
 
I'm not a big Petrucci fan either. Tongue

ironically, pettrucci doesn't sound like morse at allBig smile


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Originally posted by appudds

Also, what do you guys feel about making Gildenlow a permanent band member and giving him a part of song writing. 
I think it will make Transatlantic even more better. It will add a lot of new impulses into the music.
Also, i dont see Pain of Salvation so active that he cant spend any time on Transatlantic..


Gildenlow won't enter the US,so if he comes onboard that means TA couldn't tour here.

TA doesn't need Gildenlow anyway,they are fine without that pretentious ass.

Here to stay until Joe Cool raises it for a 2nd time...
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Also, what do you guys feel about making Gildenlow a permanent band member and giving him a part of song writing. 
I think it will make Transatlantic even more better. It will add a lot of new impulses into the music.
Also, i dont see Pain of Salvation so active that he cant spend any time on Transatlantic..


Gildenlow won't enter the US,so if he comes onboard that means TA couldn't tour here.

TA doesn't need Gildenlow anyway,they are fine without that pretentious ass.


I think Gildenlow moved on from all that after Obama was elected. He toured with Transatlantic in the US during the Whirld Tour in 2010.
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Also, what do you guys feel about making Gildenlow a permanent band member and giving him a part of song writing. 
I think it will make Transatlantic even more better. It will add a lot of new impulses into the music.
Also, i dont see Pain of Salvation so active that he cant spend any time on Transatlantic..


Gildenlow won't enter the US,so if he comes onboard that means TA couldn't tour here.

TA doesn't need Gildenlow anyway,they are fine without that pretentious ass.

What happened actually? I am not aware of what happened in the past
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Here is an interview Roine Stolt made with a greek site that could explain:

I think that’s true. The first album you hear from the Flower Kings can be your favorite. Now, let me ask you about the collaboration with Daniel Gildenlow. I think he did a great job on "Adam And Eve" and if I remember well there was a problem with your U.S. tour that made him leave the band. Is there a chance of collaborating again with him?
I think you are right. There was something about the American tour. He seemed to refuse to go to America at that point, but the band had already booked the tour, so we couldn’t cancel it. We just rehearsed without him and found a way to play the music without him. For years he’s been working so hard, because Pain Of Salvation -as you can imagine with all these people leaving the band- is very much Daniel’s thing. He’s the guy that’s working really-really hard, writing the songs and making everything work with Pain Of Salvation, pushing it forward all the time. So, I think it was rather natural to him to devote all the time he had to this and there was no reason for the Flower Kings to ask him to come back, because we had to tour in America and we’d tour again. Then you can’t have him playing with the band when we tour in Europe and not when we tour in America (laughs)...

I think he stopped his embargo to the U.S. since Barack Obama was elected...
Yeah. That’s correct. Maybe he saw something right. I agreed with the ideas he had about America at the time. But, I felt like “Ok, I shouldn’t punish my American fans upon there”. The big guys, that I don’t like in America will never know and they won’t give a sh*t. They don’t know who I am. If I was Bono maybe, from U2, I could make some kind of a statement, but I am not. I’m just a very unknown guy from Sweden. The big guys in the American industry or the people with the money or the ones in the military, they don’t give a sh*t what I will do. So, I thought I could go there and play and meet my fans. I can sing my songs and if I have something to say, maybe they’ll listen. Then, The Flower Kings kept on working with the lineup we had and Daniel kept working with his own band. We did work again as you know on the Transatlantic tour and I think that at one point Daniel called me and told me something like “it would be nice to play with the Flower Kings again”. I think it was probably just about the time we decided to put the Flower Kings on ice. 


However, I agree with what Brian May of Queen said some time ago: playing gigs in a country that has political ideas you don't share does not mean you accept those ideas of you agree with them, you simply do it for the fans.


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@Ytse_Jam, thanks for the snippet.
Weird reason for Daniel whatsoever it may be.
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Originally posted by zumacraig

Originally posted by Mirror Image

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Originally posted by Mirror Image

Originally posted by AlexDOM

I guess I'm one of the few who really like Flying Colors, but I would agree that Infinite Fire was the best by far and a masterpiece mini epic
 
My problem with Flying Colors is I just don't like Steve Morse's guitar playing. I've never been really impressed by it. I just don't like his harmonic language very much.

i love steve morse.  he's what makes this group different. if it had been just neal playing guitar, i wouldn't have bothered.  steve's stuff with dregs is great, but his solo stuff is touch and go.  incidentally, john petrucci says that steve is his favorite guitar player.
 
I'm not a big Petrucci fan either. Tongue

ironically, pettrucci doesn't sound like morse at allBig smile


I saw The Dregs (or Dixie Dregs; I forget) open for Dream Theater.

that would be cool.  i'd love to see steve morse in some capacity, just not in deep purple.  portnoy has mentioned that some live Flying Colors will be coming out.  wonder if they'll do some dregs stuff on the tour.
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I saw the Steve Morse Band open for the Dixie Dregs.

It was strange, the guitarist and bass player for both bands looked oddly similar..... Confused
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