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    Posted: August 18 2012 at 11:53
 I sometimes copy my LPs onto CD, and i have a problem.
           It's getting hard to find good quality blank CD-Rs. The quality of a CD-R depends on the dye it's made with: green dyes are the lowest quality, blue dyes are good, and golden-yellow dyes are the highest archival quality.
           You can tell the colour of a CD by laying a tissue over the surface to block the rainbow reflection. Does anybody know a brand or model of blue CD-Rs?

*Special Note* It has been pointed out that i am wrong, that the color of dye used is not an indicator of the quality of your disc.


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Cool tip.  My last batch are greenies.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:21
I went to check some in my collection that were made by others.  Jack Lancaster's Marscape is green.  But I got Ultra Violins by and from Darryl Way (he autographed the front label "to Brian" Big smile) it's black.  I've got an old Imation and a Maxell that are blue.  They really should let you know on the box, don't you think?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2012 at 16:52
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

I went to check some in my collection that were made by others.  Jack Lancaster's Marscape is green.  But I got Ultra Violins by and from Darryl Way (he autographed the front label "to Brian" Big smile, it's black.  I've got an old Imation and a Maxell that are blue.  They really should let you know on the box, don't you think?
Yeah, letting you know on the outside of the box would make things simpler-it is actually a friend of mine that does the direct copying, and asked me to post this issue, i never thought of their being verification of this on the box itself. I will mention that to him as a possible identifying thing. Thanks, Brian
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I don't think it makes a difference. It's just pits. The only thing to worry is if it will detirorate

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Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2012 at 17:13
This site says dyes vary by manufacturer and there's no conclusive proof one is better than the other:
http://www.kopyrite.com/tech_cdr.htm
But being organic they won't have the longevity of the regular manufactured ones.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2012 at 19:46
This link is very informative, thanks a lot, BrianThumbs Up
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The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2012 at 12:48
Originally posted by Gerinski

The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
Yeah, any copying that i have done is a single copy of a recording my friend has, and is just for me and for my private use only
            According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong.


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There was an interesting series on the History Channel called http://www.history.com/shows/life-after-people on one of the episodes they were talking about the decay of various forms of media, books, etc. that occur over time and of course would be accelerated if we were to all vanish from the planet and the various forms of indoor climate control would go offline.

Here's the episode I think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xDobH1tb0
The Crypt at Oglethorpe is a few miles away from where I live.

It's about 57 minutes into the first episode:



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Cloud Forest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2012 at 16:51
yp im also getting annoyed by low quality cd's,and if you listen to prog rock you must have high quality sound.

i always buy my cd's in  stores who sell such supplies,like sound speakers,... they are really expensive but they are worth it.





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Originally posted by presdoug

 I sometimes copy my LPs onto CD, and i have a problem.
           It's getting hard to find good quality blank CD-Rs. The quality of a CD-R depends on the dye it's made with: green dyes are the lowest quality, blue dyes are good, and golden-yellow dyes are the highest archival quality.
           You can tell the colour of a CD by laying a tissue over the surface to block the rainbow reflection. Does anybody know a brand or model of blue CD-Rs?


Dang! I just tried it and I got one batch of green and another batch of blue. I had no idea about that. Cheers!
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Originally posted by presdoug

Originally posted by Gerinski

The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
Yeah, any copying that i have done is a single copy of a recording my friend has, and is just for me and for my private use only
            According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong.

Yeah I said so. Before anyone.


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My last batch of blues were Sony silvers 700mb. The batch before that were green TDK golds.

What are the best quality as I thought they were good brands
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Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by presdoug

Originally posted by Gerinski

The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
Yeah, any copying that i have done is a single copy of a recording my friend has, and is just for me and for my private use only
            According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong.

Yeah I said so. Before anyone.


Ah OK I can see that - it still is an interesting about the variations in colour. 
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I believe Tayo Yuden is a good brand.  I've only used DVD's though, but they have been working nicely.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by presdoug

Originally posted by Gerinski

The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
Yeah, any copying that i have done is a single copy of a recording my friend has, and is just for me and for my private use only
            According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong.

Yeah I said so. Before anyone.
Sorry, i had meant to refer to your statement as well
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I've always used Verbatim or Maxell CD-Rs. I rarely use anything else.
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I'm afraid that after Fukushima we will see increasingly strange colours in all the Japan-made CD-Rs Confused
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Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by presdoug

Originally posted by Gerinski

The latests I have used are Fuji and Sony printable and both look green.
 
I have quite a few CD-Rs as among my friends we used to exchange original CDs bought by each of us and make copies for eachother, I know we must not encourage copying here but this is the same we always did since the times of cassette tapes, it's micro-scale and nothing to do with nowadays macro-scale pirating.
 
I really hope all these CD-Rs will not stop playing, many of them are already over 20 years old Unhappy
 
Although if it's light what can deteriorate them it should be no problem, I keep them nicely in their cases.
Yeah, any copying that i have done is a single copy of a recording my friend has, and is just for me and for my private use only
            According to the link from Slarti's post, the color of the dye used in CD-Rs is not indicative of the quality of the disc at all. Looks like the premise of my thread is wrong.

Yeah I said so. Before anyone.

Hey, I did provide a link. Big smile
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