Pussy Riot Sentenced To 2 years In Prison

CPicard wrote: ^No one. Which leads us to another question: who listens to any Russian rock band, anyway? I don't want to sound ruder than usual, but even Jamaican or African metal bands have more press than Russian metal bands... That must mean something.

i have listend on some Russian metal bands that i don't remember the names of and then ther is T.A.T.U

CPicard wrote: aginor wrote: CPicard wrote: ^No one. Which leads us to another question: who listens to any Russian rock band, anyway? I don't want to sound ruder than usual, but even Jamaican or African metal bands have more press than Russian metal bands... That must mean something. i have listend on some Russian metal bands that i don't remember the names of and then ther is T.A.T.U T.A.T.U., Pussy Riot... There must be a missing link.

can it be Rasputin, he is sort of a mystic who might have fined the cure for enternal life


Edited by aginor - August 19 2012 at 14:46

^From what I heard on the video of their "punk prayer", they just sound like typical Riot Grrrl punk-rock.
Nothing new on a musical point of view.

akamaisondufromage wrote: CPicard wrote: CCVP wrote: Jesus, are you people thick or what? Here's the relation Che has with this whole thing: 1 - retarded people think he was a freedom fighter 2 - said people usually idolize him and have all kind of memorabilia with his face on 3 - wearing a shirt with his face on is considered kewl because his cause was "noble" 4 - he fought against capitalism and its excesses (consumism included) 5 - he was against freedom of expression 6 - he was a racist towards black people (after he returned from his gerrilla time in Africa) 7 - he supported and was supported by totalitarian socialist regimes 8 - people use Che as a toke, a symbol in order to fight oppressive regimes of all sorts It's a paradox, an oxymoron. I can't believe you guys are actually this oblivious. So, you mean that the Pussy Riot members are supported by the totalitarian socialist regime (especially Cuba) and are racist? I'm more and more confused by the evolution of this thread. Or maybe I'm wrong in this story and I should consider supporting Poutine because this former KGB agent, supported by the Russian Church and nostalgics of totalitarian communist USSR, had been insulted by a bunch of pro-Guevara socialist punks... or something   I think that's more or less what our friend CCVP is trying to say in his guide by numbers for simpletons.  So, people who support Pussy Riot are retarded (Gary Kasparov et al).  They only support PR cos its 'kewl'.  and their cause is concidered 'noble' but (ho ho) its not really.   They like Che are fighting against 'consumism'.  And they don't really like freedom of expression even though they pretend to.  Pussy Riot are racists since their time spent in Africa. They are oxymorons   Is that clear?

Edited by CCVP - August 19 2012 at 20:26

CPicard wrote:   CCVP wrote: But in any way, their profanation would be considered a crime in most western countries. Well, it would depend if it would be considered as profanation. I'm not sure, but I think that the French law would only speak of "disturbance of civic peace". But, hey, it's France: we only talk of profanation when the church/synagogue/mosque is trashed, burnt, attacked and all that jazz. Oh, and we're talking about profanation, it's when we experience the horror and shock of discovering opened tombs, jewish or muslim cemetaries painted with racist insults or nazi symbols.

CCVP wrote: Maybe I did not used the most appropriate technical terminology, but the thing is, entering in a religious temple and openly and publicly doing what they did there is, usually some sort of crime exist related to that behavior. If memory serves me well, Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal have crimes regarding such actions. And don't France have anything regarding that criminally? I find it hard to believe, since, as far as I know, it is strictly prohibited to have any religious manifestation in public in France, so the only sensible thing would be to protect religious freedom equally prohibiting such acts. Quite strange IMO.

Yes, Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal... And I guess that Ireland, United Kingdom, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Austria, etc... also have laws regarding these kind of acts.
But the State and the Church are not strictly seperated as in France.

About France and religious manifestations in public... You should precise what you mean, because the Catholics still can do processions for the 15 of August, for example; the Muslims can celebrate the various Aïds; the Jews can go out with masks for Pourim, etc...

Of course, the French law would protect religious freedom (as long as the said religion doesn't violate the law) in the name of the fight against discrimination.
But invading a church wouldn't be qualified as "profanation" or "blaspheme" (except in Alsace-Lorraine and Guyana) or even hate crime as long as these acts are not motivated... by hate.

If the Pussy Riot case happened in France, their members would have been accused of disturbance of civic order. They would have spent a few hours in the next cell, but they wouldn't have condemned to 2 years of imprisonment! Maybe a bill to pay...