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Lyricists Battle: Peter Hammill or Roger Waters

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    Posted: September 06 2012 at 10:30
Only take into consideration lyrics, not vocal abilities. Who do you prefer?

I'm voting for PH.
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Very tough choice, but Peter Hammill for me. Waters wins in the sarcastic lyrics department
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Hmm. I haven't studied Hammill's lyrics in as much depth as Waters', but my impression is that his lyrics cut much deeper into the intricacies of the human condition, while Waters' strength is in expressing negative emotions effectively.  I'll pass on voting for now.
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I would like to vote for Waters... but I just don't know Hammill's lyrics (nor music, as a matter of fact, which I must do something about soon), so I can't really vote.
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Hammill, unquestionably. He evokes the strongest feeling for me, greater breadth of subject matter, covered more profoundly. Not just with Van Der Graaf Generator either, there are few who could produce something as good as "Over" for example. I even learned new words when I first was reading the VDGG/PH lyrics Big smile.
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Waters, who I think will be regarded kin decades to come as one of the finest and most relevant lyricists of his or any other generation.


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Originally posted by lazland

Waters, who I think will be regarded kin decades to come as one of the finest and most relevant lyricists of his or any other generation.

If VdGG were as popular as Floyd i think Hammill would be regarded highly as well. I prefer Hammill overall though.  
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Originally posted by Horizons

Originally posted by lazland

Waters, who I think will be regarded kin decades to come as one of the finest and most relevant lyricists of his or any other generation.

If VdGG were as popular as Floyd i think Hammill would be regarded highly as well. I prefer Hammill overall though.  

I have The Silent Corner & The Empty Stage on now. An utter classic, with killer lyrics.

My preference has little to do with "popularity". It has more to do with how they both speak to me, and as a former political activist, Waters speaks to me more.

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It's Hammil for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Horizons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2012 at 18:06
Originally posted by lazland

Originally posted by Horizons

Originally posted by lazland

Waters, who I think will be regarded kin decades to come as one of the finest and most relevant lyricists of his or any other generation.

If VdGG were as popular as Floyd i think Hammill would be regarded highly as well. I prefer Hammill overall though.  

I have The Silent Corner & The Empty Stage on now. An utter classic, with killer lyrics.

My preference has little to do with "popularity". It has more to do with how they both speak to me, and as a former political activist, Waters speaks to me more.

Not much in it, thoughBig smile

Oh i wasn't saying you were going with Waters because of his popularity, i was just saying that i wish Hammill would be in the limelight with Waters - but VdGG is lesser-known.
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Peter Hamill - easily my favourite lyricist ever. So unique within Rock music, always dabbling with the concepts of life, death, relationships and the human mind like it's his baby. I sometimes find it a bit too much to listen to some of VDGG's tunes just because the message is so overwhelming, you know? Still Life is chalk full of that. 
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That is one tough poll! Confused
Whoever wins here it would be unfair for the other one.
They both are excellent songwriters, with great lyrics.
I guess the difference is our point of view...
P. Hammill's lyrics are more 'dark' and sophisticated IMHO, whilst R.Waters' are more 'personal'...
I don't know who to choose. I find them equally brilliant...
I will vote for R.Waters I think, cause he doesn't deserve to have that big a difference from P.Hammill in votes...
(The time I'm writting this the votes are 13-6 for P. Hammill)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Man With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2012 at 22:42
Hammill for sure.
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Originally posted by Wanorak

Very tough choice, but Peter Hammill for me. Waters wins in the sarcastic lyrics department
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Waters. There is an immediacy to his lyrics and a directness that hits hard. Waters is a very shrewd observer of the human condition, and though he lacks the verbal gymnastics and theatrics of Hammill, Waters' lyrics strike a chord in a mind-boggling cross section of rock music fans, from metalheads to rockers to punks and avant-gardists. Songs like "Wish You Were Here", "Time", "Us and Them" and "Comfortably Numb" are timeless and evocative of our primal instincts.
 
Strange, isn't it, that such an eccentric band should have such immense popularity? The Who, Zeppelin, The Stones and The Beatles are all in that upper strata of rock bands, but they played a much different style of rock than Floyd. Yet there Floyd is, often mentioned in the same breath with them. I've heard many posters here dog Floyd's musicianship (particularly Mason and Wright), well what is it then that allows Floyd to reach such a wide and varied demographic? I think much of it has to do with Waters' lyrics. Even a song like "Another Brick in the Wall" had such an impact that it was banned by the apartheid government of South Africa in 1980 when the song was adopted for a nationwide protest of unequal education and a boycott of segregated schools. That's a feat VdGG couldn't dream of, even with Hammill's high-flown poetics.
 
 
 
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