Favourite Dream Theater Epic? |
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Alitare
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Posted: September 25 2012 at 20:39 | |||
The shortest one because it is over quicker.
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zeqexes
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Posted: September 25 2012 at 22:19 | |||
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Horizons
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Posted: September 25 2012 at 22:39 | |||
It is an opinion that is shared throughout PA.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: September 25 2012 at 23:08 | |||
Zeqexes, on these Archives many people think D.Theater are a hugely defining, technical, impressive and very important modern progressive band, while just as many find them to be the most tedious, overwrought, unemotional and clinical bore!
I fall right in between those two, and can completely understand both arguments! I totally sit on the fence with this band! |
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JS19
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 02:52 | |||
It's also kind of annoying. Yeah lots of people don't like DT, I get it. It's not that funny any more. Doesn't help that a lot of the fans are a bit crazy about them, but still, it's a bit pretentious to have a go at DT every single time they are mentioned... I still enjoy them from time to time, even if they are a little silly sometimes In answer to the question, I think my favourite would have to be In The Presence Of Enemies. Not a popular opinion because of the dumb lyrics, but I honestly don't expect a lyrical masterpiece when I listen to a DT track
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 06:47 | |||
DREAM THEATER are easy one of the most brilliant, technically complex bands in prog and easily the world. People, I feel, make fun of DREAM THEATER because they are just so incredibly technical and some people just don't get it. It is my experience that people often fear and belittle what they don't understand. I call those people closet case idiots. Anyway, just ignor those morons who actually have the audacity to make fun of them. |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Ytse_Jam
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 07:22 | |||
DT has haters like every single band on the earth. Everyone has its tastes, not a big deal. Honestly, I find most of King Crimson's albums to be more boring, pretentious and unuseful than most of DT's tracks, but who cares?
Talkin about lyrics, has anybody figured out what Metropolis pt. 1 is about?
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infandous
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 08:19 | |||
The music is the most important aspect, for sure. However, if you are going to have lyrics at all, they should, at the very least, not be totally ridiculous. Which they are on The Count of Tuscany. I still listen to it, because the music is great, but it does sort of take away from the grandness when I find myself giggling uncontrollably at certain points. Maybe if they didn't seem so serious about the silly lyrics, I would feel differently (I'm a Zappa fan, so I can appreciate deliberately silly lyrics). |
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dtguitarfan
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 10:15 | |||
What if they were trying to seem serious about silly lyrics on purpose in order to be more silly? A la Andrew Kaufman? |
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 10:24 | |||
John Petrucchi has a way of starting off a story and then having it make no sense. Metropolis part 1 deals with the maracle (the after life) and the sleeper(hypnotheripists) who originally puts the main character NICHOLAS into after life orbit. Now I really can't say today how metropolis pt 1 and 2 really connect with one other lyrically. It doesn't make sense just like the track THE KILLING HAND. we just have to guess or assume what happens. Kills me!! Anyway, terrific question, but I'm just as baffled as you. 😁 |
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Bj-1
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 10:57 | |||
Tie between Mind Beside Itself and Learning to Live.
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway! |
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JoeyPS
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:05 | |||
Octavarium. I LOVE the melancholy beginning segments.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:12 | |||
Shine On You Crazy Rudess?
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JoeyPS
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:22 | |||
haha You can really hear the Genesis meets Floyd influence. "Supper's Ready" meets "Echoes"?
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Chozal
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:29 | |||
A Change of Season, then In The Name of God. Octavarium is not far behind.
EDIT : if we allow songs under 20 minutes, then it's Metropolis pt.1, Change of Season, Learning to Live, and then In The Name Of God. Edited by Chozal - September 26 2012 at 11:32 |
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dtguitarfan
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:39 | |||
Actually I heard that the whole story of Metropolis Parts 1 & 2 are a modern retelling of the mythical tale of Romulus and Remus, the sons of Mars.... |
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 12:52 | |||
I'm not sure what qualifies as an "epic", but the only 10+ minute Dream Theater songs I'm familiar with and enjoy are "The Glass Prison" and "Learning to Live".
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Ytse_Jam
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 15:01 | |||
It must be at least 15+ min to be classified as an epic to me.
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zeqexes
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 16:54 | |||
I agree. If you're going to classify an epic as 10+ min then half of DT's songs would be an 'epic'.
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 19:08 | |||
Oh big time!!! Count of Tuscony too. Huge FLOYD influences |
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