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friso
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Topic: Mirage vs Space Shanty Posted: September 26 2012 at 05:02 |
Two rockin' prog favorites of mine. Both have a nod to Canterbury, some spacey aspects, great solo's and a brilliant sound.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 05:13 |
Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band! )... But I chose `Mirage' because the main vocals by Nick Greenwood on `Khan' are a little stuffy and forced, kind of sounds like he's trying to sound like Ozzy Osbourne in places! On the other hand, Camel have Andy Latimar's pleasantly bland but charming vocals, but I'd rather have those any day over the Khan ones! But seriously, can't go wrong with either album!
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octopus-4
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 05:35 |
The Khan's only album has made a myth of this band, but I love Latimer & co too much and Mirage has been my first Camel's album, listened on a small portable tape in a desert land at 40°C and in a particular mental state. So my vote goes to Mirage and its Nimrodel and Lady Fantasy
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 06:22 |
Don't like Camel at all, love the Khan album though.
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 06:31 |
Both are fine, but I vote for Khan.
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Einsetumadur
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 06:40 |
Finally someone who also regards "Mirage" as a Canterbury-type album. Fine! Although both are great I'll stick to "Space Shanty" because of Dave Stewart's great Hammond organ. A great reminder to listen to this album once again.
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 07:39 |
Mirage by a mile. One of my favorite albums. the Khan album is just okay for me.
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 08:04 |
Space Shanty by quite a margin for me, fantastic album. Mirage is just ok, but it has Freefall, which is a great song.
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 08:44 |
Mirage is Camel's best, but still - Khan.
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Hercules
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 10:20 |
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band! )...
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Camel didn't have a clue where Canterbury was, I can assure you.
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octopus-4
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 10:25 |
Hercules wrote:
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band! )...
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Camel didn't have a clue where Canterbury was, I can assure you. |
Apart of being born there? Well, not exactly in Canterbury but I think close enough.
Edited by octopus-4 - September 26 2012 at 10:27
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:04 |
Mirage by far.
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:11 |
Difficult choice! I went with the underdog this time.
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:51 |
mirage. For whatever reason SS never resonated with me.
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Hercules
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 11:55 |
octopus-4 wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band! )...
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Camel didn't have a clue where Canterbury was, I can assure you. |
Apart of being born there? Well, not exactly in Canterbury but I think close enough. |
I'm pretty sure that two were born in Guildford, Surrey or somewhere very close (Latimer and Ward) Bardens was definitely from London and I'm pretty sure Doug Ferguson was born in Carlisle.
Now exactly which of those places is Canterbury (or even near!)?
They formed and played almost entirely in London in their formative years (as The Brew and in the embroynic Camel) and had no links whatsoever with Canterbury.
The Canterbury bands are so called because that was their home town or because they lived there for extended periods - like Caravan did. Camel have no connection with Canterbury at all - except for some members of Caravan joining them later.
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octopus-4
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 12:47 |
Hercules wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Two total blowout albums, two Canterbury classics (Yes, I said it, I also consider Camel a default Canterbury band! )...
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Camel didn't have a clue where Canterbury was, I can assure you. |
Apart of being born there? Well, not exactly in Canterbury but I think close enough. |
I'm pretty sure that two were born in Guildford, Surrey or somewhere very close (Latimer and Ward) Bardens was definitely from London and I'm pretty sure Doug Ferguson was born in Carlisle.
Now exactly which of those places is Canterbury (or even near!)?
They formed and played almost entirely in London in their formative years (as The Brew and in the embroynic Camel) and had no links whatsoever with Canterbury.
The Canterbury bands are so called because that was their home town or because they lived there for extended periods - like Caravan did. Camel have no connection with Canterbury at all - except for some members of Caravan joining them later. |
I currently live in Rome, Italy. For me Guildford is close enough to Cambridge.. .
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octopus-4
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 12:49 |
More seriously, I agree about Camel in Symphonic prog more than in Canterbury, but I'd do the same with Caravan.
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 12:56 |
Space Shanty, by a hair.
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 13:04 |
I don't know about the geography, but in terms of pure sound, Mirage is symphonic, whereas Moonmadness is Canterbury. The Snow Goose is in a subgenre all by itself..
Also, I haven't heard Space Shanty so no vote.
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Posted: September 26 2012 at 13:15 |
thellama73 wrote:
I don't know about the geography, but in terms of pure sound, Mirage is symphonic, whereas Moonmadness is Canterbury.
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