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    Posted: August 17 2013 at 04:20
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Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

How about 60s Prog, 70s Prog, 80s Prog, 90s Prog, 00s Prog, and 10s Prog? That should last us until the end of the year 2059....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote apps79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2013 at 15:43
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by psarros psarros wrote:

Just saw this thread and actually fully agree with all above.Neo Prog is already a classic term, that shouln't be changed, these bands came straight out of the need for the survival of Prog music, while Coldplay and Muse's sound is even questionable ifbeing prog.Additionally tons of symphonic and crossover bands and albums are melodic, so we should also split them to melodic and non-melodic as well.Frustrating work to say the least.

let's not forget those incorrigibly melodic folk groups  Embarrassed
passed them by, because if all melodic bands were refered, this thread should actually end up in PA having only two genres: Melodic Prog and Non-Melodic Prog...pretty simplistic ending ah?Cool
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This is a great idea and will eliminate confusion....since no other prog is melodic. Wacko
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

They should change the name of "neo-prog" to "I-Wish-I-Was-Peter-Gabriel-Prog"
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Prog rock, melodic prog rock, neo prog rock, crossover prog, heavy prog rock.....
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote King Crimson776 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2013 at 21:43
RIO/Avant is plenty melodic... it's just dissonant, and lacking in genuine catharsis, resolution, and common sense.

Kidding. There are several bands of it who are truly great. Those ones do tend to make concessions to traditional forms and emotion though.
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How about 60s Prog, 70s Prog, 80s Prog, 90s Prog, 00s Prog, and 10s Prog? That should last us until the end of the year 2059....
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Originally posted by psarros psarros wrote:

Just saw this thread and actually fully agree with all above.Neo Prog is already a classic term, that shouln't be changed, these bands came straight out of the need for the survival of Prog music, while Coldplay and Muse's sound is even questionable ifbeing prog.Additionally tons of symphonic and crossover bands and albums are melodic, so we should also split them to melodic and non-melodic as well.Frustrating work to say the least.

let's not forget those incorrigibly melodic folk groups  Embarrassed
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I'm with Horizon here.

I also agree with psarros, there's really no need, in my mind, to start reinventing genre's.  If it's that big of a concern go start your own site and classify how ever you'd like.

Just think Triceratopsoil, you wouldn't have to include Neo at all.
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Just saw this thread and actually fully agree with all above.Neo Prog is already a classic term, that shouln't be changed, these bands came straight out of the need for the survival of Prog music, while Coldplay and Muse's sound is even questionable ifbeing prog.Additionally tons of symphonic and crossover bands and albums are melodic, so we should also split them to melodic and non-melodic as well.Frustrating work to say the least.
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

They should change the name of "neo-prog" to "I-Wish-I-Was-Peter-Gabriel-Prog"

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Thanks! It's interesting Smile i'm asking because I'm searching for the best way to describe my music, I've been reviewed in the crossover section on ProgArchives but I feel people don't really know what it means outside the prog circles.

I think it's the bit strange to add the "melodic" adjective as like some said, most of prog sub-genres are melodic...
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I wish some people would stop turning their nose up at the genre tag, even some of the bands labelled it! It is not an instant negative, nor does it sell them short or make then any inferior to other genres of progressive rock.

Plenty of times for me I like to know a band is Neo styled, gives me an instant idea of what to look forward to hearing from them.

Snobbery, dismissal and people's attitude towards the Neo Prog tag is what needs to change!
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Originally posted by firstlensman firstlensman wrote:

With the advent of "New Prog" (Radiohead, Mars Volta, et. al.), should this site consider changing the name of the category "Neo-Prog" to "Melodic Progressive" in order avoid confusion for new aficionados of Progressive Music? 
 
No.  Neo-prog existed and was labeled first.  If people get confused by the Neo vs. New thing, it's on them to get un-confused.  In fact, I actually find the suggestion a little bit offensive.  Besides, most prog has melody (unless you're stepping into RIO territory or other such subs) and to rename Neo to Melodic would be confusing.  Neo-prog exists and will continue to do so.  Time for people to just deal with it. 
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Originally posted by Anaon Anaon wrote:

Hi!

How would you describe progressive rock which is not technically complex, without being space or art rock?

depends...could fall into any of symphonic, crossover, neo, or folk.  Maybe even eclectic, although eclectic can tend to be a bit more complex
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Hi!

How would you describe progressive rock which is not technically complex, without being space or art rock?
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

The name "Neo Prog" has historical significance, even if it was seen as derogatory by many. New Prog is (at present) journalistic laziness since non-Prog bands like Elbow, Coldplay, 30 Seconds to Mars and Doves also get tagged with this epithet because they get a bit "diverse" and use string arangements in their productions - the "problem" for me is seperating those bands from those we recognise as being Prog if we subject them to a nebulous categorisation based upon lazy journalism rather than musicological definitions. For me, Melodic Prog would be far to board a category to be of any practical value, since that would encompas too many existing Prog subgenres, such as Symphonic, Crossover, Eclectic, Prog Folk, Electronic and Neo Prog - all of whom have melodic bands in their number.


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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

They should change the name of "neo-prog" to "I-Wish-I-Was-Peter-Gabriel-Prog"
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