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moshkito
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Topic: Complexity and enjoymentPosted: November 13 2012 at 09:17 |
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I thought you did.
This is an area that I am specially attuned to, and while I do not think that I know it, and others don't, I do not ... ever ... doubt what I "see", in front of my eyes or vision ... which is two different things.
I'm a writer, and I come off all those visuals, a lot more than I do what my mind thinks or sees, and this is the case with more than half of the artists that we discuss ... but often do not like to talk about, because we can not figure out "where it came from" ... or ... "what it meant".
I have an example.
We had an exercise in the screenplay class ... and I had nothing. On the night before I went to sleep early and boom ... as I was falling asleep, I dreamt something ... and it woke me up ... I got up and wrote it down ... about 26 pages worth of a screenplay and took it to class in the morning! It ended with a scene of a woman entering a Docvtor's office, and on my notes describing the scene ... it said ... that on his desk there was a flower on a glass and it was in need of some water ... well ... the class spent an hour discussing the "symbol of death" ... and the screenplay did not exist yet! ... but what they did was put something in my mind ... that ended up being there, and I can not tell you if I wanted it or not, but the "dream/vision" was able to suit it. No to mention that the event also taught me another bit about dreams ... that is hard to understand ... I was able to "reset" the dream, in going back to sleep later, and this time I did not wake up when the character "had the accident" in the dream, and I went through all the tunnels and all that fun stuff and had a magnificent night of sleep and rest ... but the main part of the "screenplay" was now written. It is somewhat similar to "Bad Timing a Sensual Obsession", the Nicolas Roeg film with Theresa Russell, Art Garfunkel and Harvey Keitel.
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If there is one thing that irks me, and I might have misinterpreted your comments, is that there are a lot of posters here that lovel "telling" an artist, what progressive is, and what prog is, or is not, when you and I would have a hard time finding anyone that is composing something ... "progressive" ... when most music is put together off one's feelings and a riff or something that one came up with.
But, then, of course, it begs the question ... how did Jon, and Rick and Steve, and Chris and Allan create TFTO? ... ohh use a little synthesizer in this passage under my voice, and then when I accentuate the word love, Steve has worked up to it ... etc? etc? ... and now the whole thing gets really fuzzy!
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That much I understood ![]() See? ... the reaction alone, is sad. Because there is a side/sight, I have, that you do not approve, or think it has value ... and of course, you are going to state that I did not interpret that correctly, to defend yourself!
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Ytse_Jam
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Posted: November 13 2012 at 14:43 |
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You have to consider that if people gets tired of a type of music, labels won't be interested in supporting those bands anymore. No labels money = no records. In fact, the prog bands who wanted to survive the 80s had to change their sound (take Rush, Genesis or Yes). I think that time just changes, nothing can last forever and all we can do is to continue supporting our music underground, like has been done with metal since 90s. I agree that digital surrogates are not comparable with acoustic istruments and the hardly trained musicians of the 70s, but not all modern music is bad, and is full of great musicians out there.
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progbethyname
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Posted: November 13 2012 at 15:33 |
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It's a simple. If you don't adapt, you won't survive. The 1980's was the age of electric, the 1990's was grudge/guitar distortion. I think RUSH and GENESIS were the best prog bands to adapting a new sound from being in the 1970's originally. Amazing really.
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Sumdeus
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Posted: November 13 2012 at 15:42 |
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These are very very broad generalizations. Both metal and hip-hop had many classic eras through the 80's and 90's and a lot of important development happened then. You can't really make it that black and white. |
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progbethyname
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Posted: November 13 2012 at 16:07 |
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Yup. Right you are. I was thinking on a more prog/rock level than anything else. Not other genres specifically.
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: November 13 2012 at 16:59 |
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Really? Whom did they hold a grudge against? ![]() |
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