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    Posted: November 04 2012 at 14:53
Originally posted by Guldbamsen

4 pages and not a single mention of the king of groove? Makes me sad, but I will however scream it at the top of my lungs: DEEEEEEEEMON FUZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Motown goes Canterbury! A genuine masterpiece.
Yeah, well, ... I didn't know anything about it.
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

4 pages and not a single mention of the king of groove? Makes me sad, but I will however scream it at the top of my lungs: DEEEEEEEEMON FUZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Motown goes Canterbury! A genuine masterpiece.
Yeah, well, ... I didn't know anything about it.


Yeah, sadly this one seems to be fairly obscure - at least in prog rock circles. Such a shameOuch
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That is some seriously cool fusion Smile...It funks and then some
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Originally posted by filipe

1st) To compare prog rock and blues rock is like comparing a high school essay with a PhD thesis: the second one may be a nice reading, but it doesn't have the complexity or the depth of explanation the first one does.
I believe you meant to mention PhD first and high school second. Wink

Exactly! Sorry for that! :P
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Originally posted by progbethyname

Originally posted by filipe

If i were to have a conversation with your pal, i would say two things:
1st) To compare prog rock and blues rock is like comparing a high school essay with a PhD thesis: the second one may be a nice reading, but it doesn't have the complexity or the depth of explanation the first one does.
2nd) To consider something groovy is an extremely relative issue. If you came to Brazil (my country) and said that blues rock is a groovy style, most people would laugh and (excuse me the language) sh*t in your face. Our popular music styles, like 'Samba', 'Pagode' and 'Axé' are undoubtly ten thousand times more groovier than any blues rock song is, was, or it will ever be. You will never be able to dance to a blues rock song enjoying yourself like you can to any of our styles.
(PS: I don't mean to diminish the value of blues rock, i love bands like Gov't Mule, Joe Bonamasse, and many more. What i meant is that you can always win a conversation by being an a****le, but when being like that there will always be someone who can win over you and put you back in your place. Hope i made myself clear.)
(PPS: In this thought i took in consideration that groovy means something that provides kiddy joy and is highly danceable to.) 
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In music, especially Prog there are a lot of different classifications on what groove(s) or is groovey sounding. It's hard to specify, but I dont think anybody has the right to 'sh*t of anyone's face' just because that one thinks definitively that culturally their music grooves more than the other. South American and North American music origins are vastly different
And one simply doesn't groove more than the other. It's just a different type of groove and wether you think that it's like comparing a phd paper to high school essay maybe a bit subjective.

Of course, I understand and respect that. I would never say that to anyone. What i meant is that, if he wanted to win the conversation with his (apparently a****le) pal, and that if by groove his pal meant the level of how 'dancy' and happy a song is or not, he could citate these brazilian rhythms, which are, without a doubt, more dancy and happy than blues rock. No need to get touchy, i'm on the guys and in the politeness side! :P
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So what. It is not like I want to dance to it. It is better that prog is not mainstream because that sh8t goes out of style and never comes back. Done any disco moves lately?
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

4 pages and not a single mention of the king of groove? Makes me sad, but I will however scream it at the top of my lungs: DEEEEEEEEMON FUZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Motown goes Canterbury! A genuine masterpiece.
Yeah, well, ... I didn't know anything about it.


Yeah, sadly this one seems to be fairly obscure - at least in prog rock circles. Such a shameOuch



That was funkadelic to the wall jamming there.


The Sax was incredible played by Paddy Corea. The track is Mercy bu I havent heard any others. Reminds me more of Osibisa and Santana with some Zappa thrown in


It grooves man!


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Originally posted by timothy leary

So what. It is not like I want to dance to it. It is better that prog is not mainstream because that sh8t goes out of style and never comes back. Done any disco moves lately?
My level 86 pal does them every once in a while in WoW.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - November 04 2012 at 20:23
"Composing itself, in a way, is a simplifying process, just trying to pick some (strands?) out [of] the clamour in the head." - Robert Wyatt.

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^ Polyester
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^ What do you mean?
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Disco and polyester, like hippies and tie dye
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LOL ... except that I wear armor, but that's not important. Big smile
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I got you, I raised kids and am familiar with what you are saying
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

LOL ... except that I wear armor, but that's not important. Big smile


Upload a video of that! Too funny. You would get a zillion hits on you tube.
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move on no groove here
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Almost all jazz-fusion is groovy

And what about bands like Osibisa, Cymande, Mandrill ?
Also the german krautrock fusion band Embryo :
 
Among the giants of prog :
 
 
 
 
 
But the most groovy of all the prog bands is probably Saga :
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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^ IMO, the idea of a groove has more to do more with the emphasis on the rhythm section. That said, I would probably rule a song or two out in my head.
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I will add some funk by the classic Yes lineup that you all know:
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^^^^^Agh I havent seen that naked bottom for ages - it reminds me of the Yes era I have steered clear of.Tongue

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