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Posted: October 29 2012 at 15:18
tamijo wrote:
[QUOTE=Progosopher] A lot of this also has to do with familiarityQUOTE]
Yes, at a party, what noone know, wont work.
You hope!
And think!
But you are suggesting that everyone is not sensitive enough to see this and pick it up on some level of perception that you can not conceive? So, everyone else has to be on the same level as you?
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Posted: October 30 2012 at 23:28
HackettFan wrote:
Jade Warrior - Barazinbar. Prog grooves!
Good call! I am currently listening to Open by Steve Hillage. Plenty of discoey groovin'. Two of his other albums, Motivation Radio and Green, also have a lot of this sort of stuff.
The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
If i were to have a conversation with your pal, i would say two things:
1st) To compare prog rock and blues rock is like comparing a high school essay with a PhD thesis: the second one may be a nice reading, but it doesn't have the complexity or the depth of explanation the first one does.
2nd) To consider something groovy is an extremely relative issue. If you came to Brazil (my country) and said that blues rock is a groovy style, most people would laugh and (excuse me the language) sh*t in your face. Our popular music styles, like 'Samba', 'Pagode' and 'Axé' are undoubtly ten thousand times more groovier than any blues rock song is, was, or it will ever be. You will never be able to dance to a blues rock song enjoying yourself like you can to any of our styles.
(PS: I don't mean to diminish the value of blues rock, i love bands like Gov't Mule, Joe Bonamasse, and many more. What i meant is that you can always win a conversation by being an a****le, but when being like that there will always be someone who can win over you and put you back in your place. Hope i made myself clear.)
(PPS: In this thought i took in consideration that groovy means something that provides kiddy joy and is highly danceable to.)
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 08:49
moshkito wrote:
tamijo wrote:
[QUOTE=Progosopher] A lot of this also has to do with familiarityQUOTE]
Yes, at a party, what noone know, wont work.
You hope!
And think!
But you are suggesting that everyone is not sensitive enough to see this and pick it up on some level of perception that you can not conceive? So, everyone else has to be on the same level as you?
Sorry but i dont understand what you are saying here.
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 08:54
tamijo wrote:
moshkito wrote:
tamijo wrote:
[QUOTE=Progosopher] A lot of this also has to do with familiarityQUOTE]
Yes, at a party, what noone know, wont work.
You hope!
And think!
But you are suggesting that everyone is not sensitive enough to see this and pick it up on some level of perception that you can not conceive? So, everyone else has to be on the same level as you?
Sorry but i dont understand what you are saying here.
ah thats ok - he speaketh a different language but we love him all thesame
everything ok, Moshy? havent heard from you of late
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 10:24
filipe wrote:
1st) To compare prog rock and blues rock is like comparing a high school essay with a PhD thesis: the second one may be a nice reading, but it doesn't have the complexity or the depth of explanation the first one does.
I believe you meant to mention PhD first and high school second.
I think prog grooves - listen to Gentle Giants The Missing Piece album - wait, thats not prog actually
I think a good deal of it is. Well, maybe more art rock.
Yeah its not that bad I am just having a dig at this silly thread.
You cant put Prog in a box... well, unless you own this!
That looks like a really awesome collection. I love Box sets like that. Also, I'm yet to explore MAGMA. What other bands could you equate them too? Do they embody more of a 70's sound of prog? I suppose they groove at times as well. :)
4 pages and not a single mention of the king of groove? Makes me sad, but I will however scream it at the top of my lungs: DEEEEEEEEMON FUZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Motown goes Canterbury! A genuine masterpiece:
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
If i were to have a conversation with your pal, i would say two things:
1st) To compare prog rock and blues rock is like comparing a high school essay with a PhD thesis: the second one may be a nice reading, but it doesn't have the complexity or the depth of explanation the first one does.
2nd) To consider something groovy is an extremely relative issue. If you came to Brazil (my country) and said that blues rock is a groovy style, most people would laugh and (excuse me the language) sh*t in your face. Our popular music styles, like 'Samba', 'Pagode' and 'Axé' are undoubtly ten thousand times more groovier than any blues rock song is, was, or it will ever be. You will never be able to dance to a blues rock song enjoying yourself like you can to any of our styles.
(PS: I don't mean to diminish the value of blues rock, i love bands like Gov't Mule, Joe Bonamasse, and many more. What i meant is that you can always win a conversation by being an a****le, but when being like that there will always be someone who can win over you and put you back in your place. Hope i made myself clear.)
(PPS: In this thought i took in consideration that groovy means something that provides kiddy joy and is highly danceable to.)
Cheers!
In music, especially Prog there are a lot of different classifications on what groove(s) or is groovey sounding. It's hard to specify, but I dont think anybody has the right to 'sh*t of anyone's face' just because that one thinks definitively that culturally their music grooves more than the other. South American and North American music origins are vastly different And one simply doesn't groove more than the other. It's just a different type of groove and wether you think that it's like comparing a phd paper to high school essay maybe a bit subjective.
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