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ProgMetaller2112 
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Prog can definitely groove listen to Red by King Crimson and i don't really like the band
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Neo-Romantic
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 02:40 |
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Definitely agree with you there (although I do like the band, and Red is my all-time favorite album). When I think groove, I think of the Dream Theater album Images and Words, especially the verses of Take the Time and the bridge and solo sections in Under a Glass Moon. The bass groove in the latter is unbelievable. |
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Neo-Romantic
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Yeah, that whole album had some real tight grooves, especially the instrumentals. If you're a fan of the heavier, groove-oriented side of prog and want to learn more about KC, I highly recommend Larks' Tongues in Aspic through Red. Their 80s stuff is really groove-oriented too, but nothing beats the albums I previously mentioned in my book. I'm willing to admit I'm biased though. But still, they've got power, drive, and musicianship where it really counts! |
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JefferySvenson
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I do believe Prog bands groove. I have been told similar things by friends in regards to Progressive music. They don't like it because they "cant follow" it or there's not enough "riffage".
Pfft! Of course not all Prog bands are particularly known for their ability to "groove", but it's not hard to find a song that demonstrates a groovy riff that even non-prog folk can enjoy. The biggest difference though is that prog bands have a tendency to use these things to play with peoples expectations - which is great! I usually just give my friends some examples and tell them to listen to them when they're feeling patient. They don't always turn to the prog side, but you know, sometimes. |
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Tapfret
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Posted: February 23 2013 at 00:35 |
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Prog does not not groove. People do not groove.
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RoyFairbank
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Pink Floyd is just one band that grooves..... I think most prog has a good groove and a lot of prog indeed has strong 60s/70s "black music" RnB, funk, jazz, etc. influences or disco influences or influences from other genres with a more stereotypical or prominently displayed groove.The groove can be more complex, but its no less groovy.
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Metalmarsh89
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When I imagine Pink Floyd songs grooving, I think of songs like One of the Days, Money, or Sheep (the ending). Am I on the right track here? |
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RoyFairbank
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Those are definitely groovy songs IMO. I mean they had Another Brick In The Wall which is practically rocked-out disco. |
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Metalmarsh89
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Yes, I see what you mean. I know the nice feeling the groove offers from these songs, I've just never applied that definition to them in my own head. I also made a major typo, I meant One of THESE Days of course.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. PROGERSSIVE ROCK GROOVE`S YOU IN MORE WAY`S THAN ANYWAY. THIS MAKE`S ME
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DON`T UNDERSTAND THE MUSIC MOVEMEANT.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: March 03 2013 at 03:23 |
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^ OK, calm down and turn off Caps Lock.
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bytor2112
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I was really waiting for someone to say this. |
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Snow Dog
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^Well Swindon can get you down since they took the trains away.
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Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: March 03 2013 at 04:26 |
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THey took away the TRAINS? (Maybe they just don't stop in Swindon any more?)
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Josef_K
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Posted: March 05 2013 at 08:12 |
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Apocalypse in 9/8 is one of the most awesome (and equally disturbing) grooves I've ever heard. Then again, if you listen mostly to symphonic or avant-garde prog then I guess there is not so much focus on the groove. Wouldn't say it applies to the genre as a whole at all though.
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My band's Reverbnation page, for people who like keyboard-driven symphonic/progressive-ish rock :D
http://www.reverbnation.com/oracleswe |
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Posted: March 05 2013 at 08:14 |
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Just in case this hasn't been mentioned, Yes' version of America grooves like hell in the instrumental section.
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"Composing itself, in a way, is a simplifying process, just trying to pick some (strands?) out [of] the clamour in the head." - Robert Wyatt.
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Posted: March 05 2013 at 10:16 |
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Caravan grooves. It's a British thang, but boy does it ever groove.
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