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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2012 at 09:52
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by desistindo desistindo wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

 and 0 is...?? well is anything worth a zero rating?

maybe the stuff That arent prog at all and has in PA. 


If you put a piece of cardboard on a turntable and set the needle on it at full volume maybe... no, that would still sound pretty good. Probably a solid 2.

... or a three - good, but non-essential.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2012 at 16:37
I would rate very few albums as fives, so I would not have many albums to listen to if I only listened to "masterpieces". But even so an album can be very enjoyable even if it is a three. There are some three star albums that I absolutely love despite their flaws, so I don't know why I would not listen to them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2012 at 23:49
Every album is a masterpiece if you know how to listen to it correctly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2012 at 23:51
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Every album is a masterpiece if you know how to listen to it correctly.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2012 at 00:17
Good call.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2012 at 08:46
Ah, but you see, the correct way of listening to Love Beach is not to listen to it at all, so Tapfret is right. Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2012 at 16:59
Just because an album isn't a masterpiece album,
doesn't mean it can't have a masterpiece song or 2 on it.
I'd hate to miss out on those.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2012 at 11:37
Originally posted by gr8dane gr8dane wrote:

Just because an album isn't a masterpiece album,
doesn't mean it can't have a masterpiece song or 2 on it.
I'd hate to miss out on those.


Lol. That's why I bought the Genesis albums Invisible touch, Genesis 1983, ABACAB and We can't dance . Some amazing tracks on those albums, but some very bad ones too
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2012 at 12:58
I can only think of two reasons - you have too much money or you have too much spare time...
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2012 at 22:48
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I can only think of two reasons - you have too much money or you have too much spare time...



being a person who could never not lend an ear to whatever Genesis put out I could not resist. I'm not a completionist. I strangely know when to back off. I timed QUEENSRŸCHE perfectly. Stopped buying their albums after PROMISE LAND. I was so right to do so.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2012 at 22:57
Some of those less acclaimed, below-the-radar albums can be quite rewarding.  Also because an album that may not appeal initially may eventually connect with you. 

Personally I like to get away from big albums everyone raves about and occasionally listen to an album I know is an under-performer, perhaps one by a hobbyist musician in his basement or whatever.  It's a different experience, and not a bad one just because the album has 2 and 3 star ratings.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2012 at 01:50
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Some of those less acclaimed, below-the-radar albums can be quite rewarding.  Also because an album that may not appeal initially may eventually connect with you.  Personally I like to get away from big albums everyone raves about and occasionally listen to an album I know is an under-performer, perhaps one by a hobbyist musician in his basement or whatever.  It's a different experience, and not a bad one just because the album has 2 and 3 star ratings.


Exactly, thats what I did 40yrs ago.
There is a modern myth that prog. was hugely popular in the 70s, it wasn,t, Floyd being the only exception.
Back then, the more demanding the music , the less comercially sucessful it was, so nothing has changed.
In the early 70s, I had to agree to buy every Centle Giant album, in advance, as my local record shop would not take the chance of stocking them, because "they did'nt sell).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2012 at 02:24
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:


If we only listened to masterpieces, we would have very little to choose from and variety is the spice of life.
I agreed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2012 at 04:24
I don't listen to modern prog
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2012 at 05:07

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

I don't listen to modern prog

In your opinion, when does the classic "prog" end? Where is the cutoff line? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2012 at 05:25
Originally posted by Argonaught Argonaught wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

I don't listen to modern prog

In your opinion, when does the classic "prog" end? Where is the cutoff line? 

 
83 is pretty much the last of the good stuff. Drum sounds and compositions pretty much went out the window for the next decade. Too many bad bands in that decade and all those new influences gauranteed great bands and great music was gone forever


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2012 at 08:37

Originally posted by My Dreaming Hill My Dreaming Hill wrote:

Just because A Momentary Lapse of Reason isn't the best Pink Floyd album that doesn't mean it can't be one of my favorites.

Seconded. In the vast majority of cases, my favourite albums are rarely the 'best' albums. The emotional connection is what counts for me and because I might be from the planet Sock Puppet and you from Soft Leisure Footwear, there are no guarantees we will draw the same conclusions from our experiences of looking up at the same stars in the night sky.

Is ITCOTCK the 'best' King Crimson album? Maybe. Is it my favourite? No it isn't.

Just remember, you are all individuals...Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2012 at 09:41
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Every album is a masterpiece if you know how to listen to it correctly.


I don't quite agree with this, but I do think that there's a lot more good music than bad music in the world, and our main problem is not that we don't have good music, but that people don't listen to it properly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2012 at 10:49
I tend to give any album at the very least 3 or 4 listens before putting it away to get dust on the shelf.
 
But yes, I have quite many albums which have ended getting dust and I don't feel the need to listen to them again, although now and then I may pick one of these and give it one more try just for a change or to refresh my opinion.
 
This is completely different from the fact that I still like to try albums which I have never listened to yet, even if they are not highly rated or are obscure.
 
So the key is, "mediocre" to whom? to yourself or to others? if you know already the album and you find it mediocre then fully agree, why listen to it again when you can listen to things you enjoy more.
 
But if you never heard the album and all you know is that other people consider it mediocre, you may still want to give it a chance.
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2012 at 11:38
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Some of those less acclaimed, below-the-radar albums can be quite rewarding.  Also because an album that may not appeal initially may eventually connect with you.  Personally I like to get away from big albums everyone raves about and occasionally listen to an album I know is an under-performer, perhaps one by a hobbyist musician in his basement or whatever.  It's a different experience, and not a bad one just because the album has 2 and 3 star ratings.



That is absolutely true. For instance, I love PYRAMAZE's music and all their albums are rated around 3 stars each on PA. I think it just comes down taste and opinion. Your right about what you said though. Certain songs are so good on an overall mediocre album. To good to pass up.    
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