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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Zappa and Neil Young aren't bands (Neil Young is Canadian, anyway). I am not rally a fan of any of the others mentioned, although CC Revival are pretty good.

Each to his own then.  The Doors were way more important to rock music than Aerosmith.  I thought you said greatest and not just the one that's your favourite?


My point was that I initially thought it absurd that Aerosmith could call themselves that, but I was surprised to have such difficulty coming up with American bands I like better. I think it says something about the quality of American rock music compared to Britain. When I think rock bands, I immediately think of The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Dire Straits, Queen, etc.

America does have some great solo artists, though. Hendrix, Dylan, Alice Cooper, Springsteen, Zappa, Beefheart, Warren Zevon, etc. Maybe something to do with our individualistic nature.
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I really like that you mentioned Zevon. 

I listen to Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner every week.

As for which band came where? I could care less.

And The Band were (mostly) Canadian. One of my favorite musical groups, but not entirely a US rock band.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2012 at 19:45
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I don't think very highly of Aerosmith at all, but I'm hard pressed to think of another one, unless you count backing bands like the Jimi Hendrix Experience. Maybe Boston? I'm open to suggestion.
The Jimi Hendrix Experience were British, they just happened to have an American front man. Big smile
 
Not much of an expert on American music and I know 4/5ths of sod all about 70s americana but I would have listed bands from the 80s & 90s as well REM, Talking Heads (in the 80s), Pearl Jam, Nirvana, RCHP, Heart (in the 80s)...
 
Where America excell is in mainstream Metal - Metallica, Slayer, Pantera, Megadeth, Machine Head, Type O Negative, Korn, Death, Faith No More, Anthrax, Fear Factory, etc.
 
But... The greatest American band is System Of A Down.


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Logan, I would have offered Kansas, but several other choices were offered to you.

Say, is Fleetwood Mac British or American now?
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Logan, I would have offered Kansas, but several other choices were offered to you.

Say, is Fleetwood Mac British or American now?
 
It's been 50/50 for quite some time ... you know that already, though!
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:



Say, is Fleetwood Mac British or American now?

 
It's been 50/50 for quite some time ... you know that already, though!
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Yep, and so is (what's left from) King Crimson, and Foreigner as well. 
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Same goes for Transatlantic I guess.

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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

But... The greatest American band is System Of A Down.



you're.... joking, right? please tell me you're joking...


as far as the best American bands it's definitely The Doors or Grateful Dead for me.


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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


 
But... The greatest American band is System Of A Down.

I thought it was Green Day LOL

(but I like SOAD and I wouldn't feel bad if anybody suggests Serj Tankian for inclusion.
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When thinking of great US bands, i think of Blue Cheer and Bloodrock, competition in heavy music, and of course Grand Funk, who were already mentioned
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Ok. I'll play this game

The greatest American band is without question

DREAM THEATER.

You want to talk about statistics Dream Theater have sold more than 10 million albums world wide. Highest grossing total for any progressive metal band on the planet and there is a good reason for it, and it's because they are a quality versatile band that has some of the strongest musicianship on planet earth. Nuff said.
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Million albums? Beach Boys.
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Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:


Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

More people like simple music. That demographic won't change for at least as long as I am alive On this planet earth
So if I kill you...? Wink


Killing me won't change why pop sells so much more than prog.
I know you wish it was that simple, but it isn't. Also, let's be clear

I DON'T LIKE THIS FACT AT ALL! Wish it weren't true.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Million albums? Beach Boys.


Not prog.
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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

When thinking of great US bands, i think of Blue Cheer and Bloodrock, competition in heavy music, and of course Grand Funk, who were already mentioned



Blue Cheer are one of the pioneers of the hard rock/metal genre itself!! I have a ton of respect for them.
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Million albums? Beach Boys.


Not prog.

I see them as proto for their last albums. Unfortunately Kansas sold probably less than DT but I don't know the statistics. Effectively, thinking to top selling American prog there's not very much to mention.
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I think there's no way anyone could seriously say Dream Theater are the greatest American band.
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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

I think there's no way anyone could seriously say Dream Theater are the greatest American band.
Agreed, career sales of 10 million, while being impressive, pale into insignificance compared to American bands like Boston, Journey, ZZ Top, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Green Day, Creed, Eagles, Guns & Roses, Bon Jovi etc. achieve that on a single album.


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Didn't anyone say Blue Oyster Cult?
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Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:


Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

More people like simple music. That demographic won't change for at least as long as I am alive On this planet earth
So if I kill you...? Wink


Killing me won't change why pop sells so much more than prog.
I know you wish it was that simple, but it isn't. Also, let's be clear

I DON'T LIKE THIS FACT AT ALL! Wish it weren't true.

I don't actually care what sells how much, it was merely a very silly joke. I will happily continue to listen to and buy both 'pop' and 'prog' music, whatever that means.

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

I think there's no way anyone could seriously say Dream Theater are the greatest American band.

I think there is, but there's no way I would ever agree. Not as long as there are such tremendous bands as the Doors, CSN and ZZ Top.


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