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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 00:16


My good man, there is no such single entity as a "bad self"......nor is there what one might want to call a "good self" for that matter......

according to RF, actually, (as well as several other so-called "philosophers" and "theologians" throughout the centuries) ..........there are an "infinite" number of selves wrapped up inside one particular human body.......

This particular admirer of Fripp, Crimso Output  may go ahead and bring an end to this conscious existence very soon,......

however, I doubt that Fripp would mind, BUT ONLY if he doesn't know who I am or why I am dying........

The chances are very good that Robert Fripp will not miss my little measly 41-years of existence on this planet anyway..... as if I'm not as worthy as his mother for an acknowledgement of death and mourning........perhaps because his mother died of "somewhat" natural causes at a "reasonable age", but my death was self-perpetrated.

I have a mother, and there is NOTHING that he will say to her, period,

and, honestly.....why should he say something anyway?  I would doubt that he would be interested in communicating with the mother of a suicide perpetrator.  ha!  For all that I know, he may feel extreme contempt for both myself and my family members!    hmmmmfph!

in fact, he most likely will not even be made aware that someone committed suicide with "Starless & Bible Black" playing in the background.......ha!

And forget about Bruford.......he would NEVER EVER come to the knowledge that someone admired his work for x number of years, then committed suicide..........think about it, and think about the general attitude of these 2 men specifically when applied to "enthusiasts" or "admirers".....lol.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 00:18
Originally posted by Crimson_King Crimson_King wrote:

Hello there,

My VERY FIRST POST!........how exciting!   hmfff!   (he says with a nasty glint....)

No, Robert Fripp is not overrated.

&,

 .....Yes, I am a 41-year-old virgin who has never been able to secure a date or a "holding-hands session", or a kiss from any woman......and that's the d*mn truth!

So, take it from there.


This is the best post on this f**king website, man.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 00:20
Okay, scratch that. THAT is the best post on this site.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 00:33
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 01:25
Frippy. Overrated? A little LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 01:32
Fripp is underrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 01:35
^^^ Fripp might be underrated in the overall musical world in your opinion but in the prog world he is overrated 

Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Originally posted by Crimson_King Crimson_King wrote:

Hello there,

My VERY FIRST POST!........how exciting!   hmfff!   (he says with a nasty glint....)

No, Robert Fripp is not overrated.

&,

 .....Yes, I am a 41-year-old virgin who has never been able to secure a date or a "holding-hands session", or a kiss from any woman......and that's the d*mn truth!

So, take it from there.


This is the best post on this f**king website, man.
 

LOL


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - July 26 2014 at 01:39
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 07:21
Overrated?  Lady Gaga, yes.  Robert Fripp, no.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 08:27
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Now you are just confusing me. We were talking about articulation, but all of the sudden you are talking about excellence as a criteria. This post makes no sense.


No, I was talking about articulation not about excellence. I only said that some say Kurt Cobain was an excellent guitarist which is also a personal opinion.

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

The guitar work is a part of the composition. Since you have so many years of experience of playing the instrument, question: If the guitar work on "Fracture" isn't complex, than what is?


articulation isn't about complexity, it's about how you hold the strings, hit the strings, bend them etc...

 
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Study it first then judge it for chrissakes.


study these classical pieces you say Fripp would nail (I really doubt it).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 08:41

Originally posted by Crimson_King Crimson_King wrote:

My good man, there is no such single entity as a "bad self"......nor is
there what one might want to call a "good self" for that matter......according
to RF, actually, (as well as several other so-called "philosophers" and
"theologians" throughout the centuries) ..........there are an
"infinite" number of selves wrapped up inside one particular human
body.......This particular admirer of Fripp, Crimso Output  may go ahead and bring an end to this conscious existence very soon,......however, I doubt that Fripp would mind, BUT ONLY if he doesn't know who I am or why I am dying........The
chances are very good that Robert Fripp will not miss my little measly
41-years of existence on this planet anyway..... as if I'm not as worthy
as his mother for an acknowledgement of death and
mourning........perhaps because his mother died of "somewhat" natural
causes at a "reasonable age", but my death was self-perpetrated.I have a mother, and there is NOTHING that he will say to her, period, and,
honestly.....why should he say something anyway?  I would doubt that he
would be interested in communicating with the mother of a suicide
perpetrator.  ha!  For all that I know, he may feel extreme contempt for
both myself and my family members!    hmmmmfph!in fact, he most
likely will not even be made aware that someone committed suicide with
"Starless & Bible Black" playing in the background.......ha!And
forget about Bruford.......he would NEVER EVER come to the knowledge
that someone admired his work for x number of years, then committed
suicide..........think about it, and think about the general attitude of
these 2 men specifically when applied to "enthusiasts" or
"admirers".....lol.

I don't know about you people but I'm never going to listen to KC again, it's Lady GaGa from here on.

Edited by SteveG - July 26 2014 at 11:37
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 10:06
I'd say Fripp is underrated if anything. :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 10:50
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Overrated?  Lady Gaga, yes.  Robert Fripp, no.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 13:54
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


Originally posted by Crimson_King Crimson_King wrote:

My good man, there is no such single entity as a "bad self"......nor is
there what one might want to call a "good self" for that matter......according
to RF, actually, (as well as several other so-called "philosophers" and
"theologians" throughout the centuries) ..........there are an
"infinite" number of selves wrapped up inside one particular human
body.......This particular admirer of Fripp, Crimso Output  may go ahead and bring an end to this conscious existence very soon,......however, I doubt that Fripp would mind, BUT ONLY if he doesn't know who I am or why I am dying........The
chances are very good that Robert Fripp will not miss my little measly
41-years of existence on this planet anyway..... as if I'm not as worthy
as his mother for an acknowledgement of death and
mourning........perhaps because his mother died of "somewhat" natural
causes at a "reasonable age", but my death was self-perpetrated.I have a mother, and there is NOTHING that he will say to her, period, and,
honestly.....why should he say something anyway?  I would doubt that he
would be interested in communicating with the mother of a suicide
perpetrator.  ha!  For all that I know, he may feel extreme contempt for
both myself and my family members!    hmmmmfph!in fact, he most
likely will not even be made aware that someone committed suicide with
"Starless & Bible Black" playing in the background.......ha!And
forget about Bruford.......he would NEVER EVER come to the knowledge
that someone admired his work for x number of years, then committed
suicide..........think about it, and think about the general attitude of
these 2 men specifically when applied to "enthusiasts" or
"admirers".....lol.

I don't know about you people but I'm never going to listen to KC again, it's Lady GaGa from here on.
 
Wow....I know what you mean.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 15:29
Originally posted by LSDisease LSDisease wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

The guitar work is a part of the composition. Since you have so many years of experience of playing the instrument, question: If the guitar work on "Fracture" isn't complex, than what is?
articulation isn't about complexity, it's about how you hold the strings, hit the strings, bend them etc...
I know that. The confusion here arose from the fact that you have made a number of statements in a post, I separated them and addressed each one of them individually. Ostensibly, we made a whole tree of arguments. I don't know why you would assume that I thought articulation was about complexity.
Originally posted by LSDisease LSDisease wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

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study these classical pieces you say Fripp would nail ... .
It doesn't matter whether I study those pieces or not. It will not close any argument here.
Originally posted by LSDisease LSDisease wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

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study these classical pieces you say Fripp would nail (I really doubt it).
Why would you doubt it? Do you possess his intellect, playing habits, musical acumen, etc.? Who are we to assume what he doesn't know or what he can't accomplish? Maybe he could play them but chose not to (which is a great decision, if you ask me).


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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

I know that. The confusion here arose from the fact that you have made a number of statements in a post, I separated them and addressed each one of them individually. Ostensibly, we made a whole tree of arguments. I don't know why you would assume that I thought articulation was about complexity.


you came up with that complexity argument as the most important thing, I was talking about Fripp's abilities. Like I said earlier, KC may be complex but this complexity goes beyond Fripp's skills as a guitarist.


 
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Why would you doubt it? Do you possess his intellect, playing habits, musical acumen, etc.? Who are we to assume what he doesn't know or what he can't accomplish? Maybe he could play them but chose not to (which is a great decision, if you ask me).


maybe punk rock guitarists were able to play Caprice but they chose not to...dunno, but I think they just couldn't do this cos it's not an easy thing to do.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2014 at 09:08
Originally posted by LSDisease LSDisease wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

I know that. The confusion here arose from the fact that you have made a number of statements in a post, I separated them and addressed each one of them individually. Ostensibly, we made a whole tree of arguments. I don't know why you would assume that I thought articulation was about complexity.


you came up with that complexity argument as the most important thing, I was talking about Fripp's abilities. Like I said earlier, KC may be complex but this complexity goes beyond Fripp's skills as a guitarist.


 
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Why would you doubt it? Do you possess his intellect, playing habits, musical acumen, etc.? Who are we to assume what he doesn't know or what he can't accomplish? Maybe he could play them but chose not to (which is a great decision, if you ask me).


maybe punk rock guitarist were able to play Caprice but they chose not to...dunno, but I think they just couldn't do this cos it's not an easy thing to do.

Simply playing a classical piece means nothing, no matter how difficult it is to do. Fripp is a good guitarist because of his compositions. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2014 at 09:25
Music is overrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2014 at 09:32
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Music is overrated.
Perhaps it's just overlooked. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2014 at 10:08
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:


Originally posted by renaudbb renaudbb wrote:

Are "Red", "In the Court" or "Lizard" overrated ?
That's only three albums out of the many. In totality, yes, Fripp is terribly overrated. How can anyone believe that King Crimson is better than other bands when half of the time it has been disbanded? And then I'm not even talking about the lack of melodies.

I notice a lot of euros such as yourself aren't too high on mr. Fripp. It's a shame not to embrace such a fellow europer as the man, the myth-the one called fripp. He never stopped being at the leading edge of prog, and most prog guitarists aren't worthy enough to tine his guitar.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2014 at 10:50
Musical influence is a bit like gravity unfortunately - the bigger the band (in terms of musical/social mass) (and that usually means bums on seats and recordings sold) the more influence they have.
I have possibly yet to appreciate Fripp.....Like I've said before - I have a lot of music to get through before I can explore the more eclectic corners of the Prog genre.....
Mind you I think that Fripp is one of the more interesting characters in prog...Is he still married to Toyah?
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