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Poll Question: From which album is Van der Graaf Generator work unacceptable for you?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
1 [3.23%]
6 [19.35%]
11 [35.48%]
3 [9.68%]
0 [0.00%]
2 [6.45%]
0 [0.00%]
1 [3.23%]
1 [3.23%]
0 [0.00%]
6 [19.35%]
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    Posted: December 25 2012 at 18:14
Oh... dark, obscure, strange, too complex band for me. Very unique, but often monotonous and repetitive sound, unfortunately. I like actually only several albums from their beginnings with the climax in the album Pawn Hearts, but I know that their generally acclaimed peak is the following album Godbluff.
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I've listened and thoroughly enjoyed their albums up to Quiet Zone/Pleasure Dome. Haven't heard anything else.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sumdeus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 25 2012 at 18:33
Quiet Zone/Pleasure Dome I guess since that was their last album before the big split but I enjoy their new albums they've made as well. I guess the last choice fits better for me since I don't think they necessarily got 'bad'

also lol another case of the poll question being different from the topic, voted for Quiet Zone and immediately saw the actual poll quesiton, i should've definitely voted for "none". I don't think there is any VDGG record that is "unacceptable". They got a bit less exciting and more restrained, but they never pulled a Genesis or anything.




Edited by Sumdeus - December 25 2012 at 18:53
Sumdeus - unique, ambitious music with a wide range of influences and ideas.
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A grounding in numbers.


(Though I quite like ALT)
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I'm afraid Still Life gets my vote. I really want to like that album, but I always end up listening to Godbluff instead.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2012 at 01:40
Present was the first one I didn't like really
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One of two well known 70s bands I just cannot get into at all (the other is King Crimson).

I quite like some of the music but, like Dream Theater, it's the vocals that kill it for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sumdeus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2012 at 05:09
really? I guess I can see how Hammill could be hit or miss but the vocals have always been one of the reasons I love VDGG, he performs them so well
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blacksword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2012 at 05:38
World Record. Still pretty good though. The only album I've not heard in full is Trisector. That didn't really inspire me.
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Never
Coldness doth get away with the badness.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2012 at 06:08
I'd say World Record because it follows immediately after two masterpiece albums. But this decline is less obvious than that of Genesis from And Then There Were Three. VdGG has had their ups and downs (A Grounding in Numbers is ranked #8 in my top 10 of 2011) where Genesis has not made an album that I would rate 4 stars.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wanorak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2012 at 14:42
I think all of them have something to offer; none really suffer from lack of quality.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2012 at 16:15
I like World record and Quiet zone more than Still life and Pawn hearts
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The Beginning of Van der Graaf Generator Decline?

Most likely when Peter Hammill first started singing. Wink

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I think the only vocalist of the classic period that really did that was Ian Anderson. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2012 at 23:39
I'll go with the masses on this one. World Record - even though it has some great moments. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote HarbouringTheSoul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2012 at 11:07
I only know the albums from H to He to World Record, and all of them are perfectly acceptable, with no pattern of decline. I would say the weakest is Pawn Hearts and the strongest Godbluff.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Kirillov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2013 at 08:52
I'd say that VdGG were at their best in their '75-'76 period. Still Life pips it for me, although Godbluff and World Record are both very strong.
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Still Life for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Varon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2013 at 11:22

 I listen all this albums for 6 years and still I like all of them. Of course they are not all of equal quality but every album is interesting in its own way. 

 



Edited by Varon - March 19 2013 at 13:48
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