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this is what I'm reading now...


Essay collection by this post-modern novelist, where he goes through several classics of Western literature from the Odyssee up to the 20th century examining why they're relevant today: Not just through their influence on literary history and how they reflect the cultural social context of the time + place they were written in, but also how the insights found in the stories are relevant to human society today.

As usual Calvino is a pleasure to read, kind of like his countryman Umberto Eco though his sense of humour is a degree sillier and less dry.


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Quite a disturbing but fascinating read. The story has many twists and turns, and the two main characters (two women) as well as their relationship are definitely unusual. I really loved it, but I can certainly understand why some people who read it hated it; it is definitely a weird story and not for the faint of heart.








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decided to get into a good fantasy series after all the crap going down everywhere....on the third book in the series......
 
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I need to get around to reading more Zelazny one of these days, though I don't read anywhere as much SF/F as I used to  - being more into the crime/horror genres now. I mean, he's after Michael Moorcock probably the author who's inspired the most Hawkwind lyrics...
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Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

I need to get around to reading more Zelazny one of these days, though I don't read anywhere as much SF/F as I used to  - being more into the crime/horror genres now. I mean, he's after Michael Moorcock probably the author who's inspired the most Hawkwind lyrics...

I'm a fan of his and have read most of his novels though I did this over 30 years ago so I thought I would reread the 9 Princes In Amber which is considered one of the all time great fantasy series.
I did not know that Hawkwind used any Zelazny ideas.

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Done with Calvino's Why Read the Classics: That book's biggest asset to me has been discovering a lot of classic Italian literature from the Middle Ages to now that isn't as well known in Northern Europe as the "usual suspects" of Ariosto, Boccaccio, Dante etc.

Right now I'm reading:


Very different from the popular image of the Frankenstein story - I think out of the film adaptations, it's only Kenneth Branagh's 1994 version which sticks that much to the novel and I can already tell even that one is way Hollywoodized. Like a lot of Victorian-era British literature, it's overflowing with philosophical considerations and bombastic prose constantly taking plot twists into completely different directions and "narrative within a narrative within a narrative" framing devices. Then consider how short the novel is, and reading it becomes quite the experience.

I also noticed how Mary Shelley spends much more time on the moral and philosophical implications of what's going on than the actual details... how the monster is brought to life isn't spelled out in detail very much, but there is way more getting into both the heads of Victor Frankenstein and the monster he created in order to explain why they make the decisions they do than in any film adaptation.



A biography of the band written by two roadies who were with Black Sabbath from back when they were still called Earth: There's not so much information about the recording processes of their classic records, but there's plenty of so-embarassing-they're-hilarious anecdotes from touring as well as plenty of revealing insight into the cultural landscape and internal divisions in the UK rock scene back in the 1970s.
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Finished this guy last week. I thought it would just be a fun read where I could feel good about myself laughing at some post-modern pseudo-science nonsense. While I did get to do plenty of that, it's also a rather earnest plea from the two authors. Essential this is a book long elaboration of what Alan Sokal did with his hoax (if anyone even remembers that anymore).

Anyway it was very good and something that I think maybe Pat and Dean among a few others here would really enjoy.

My favorite bit of nonsense included came from Alain Badiou.




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Superb view of the slow but devious rise of spymaster and CIA Chief Allen Dulles alongside brother John Foster, Secretary of State, from the end of WWll and Dulles' backroom dealings with Nazi intelligence men to his careful manipulation of U.S. foreign policy through Eisenhower.   Great reading from Dave Talbot.





The utterly hair-raising White House tapes made by JFK during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962 during daily talks with his Chiefs of Staff is harrowing stuff.   One of the most important records ever made of war ~ and world ~ history.





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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

I need to get around to reading more Zelazny one of these days, though I don't read anywhere as much SF/F as I used to  - being more into the crime/horror genres now. I mean, he's after Michael Moorcock probably the author who's inspired the most Hawkwind lyrics...

I'm a fan of his and have read most of his novels though I did this over 30 years ago so I thought I would reread the 9 Princes In Amber which is considered one of the all time great fantasy series.
I did not know that Hawkwind used any Zelazny ideas.


"Damnation Alley" from "Quark, Strangeness and Charm" is based on the Zelazny novel of the same name.

an excerpt from the lyrics:

"I've got the serum and I'm going to take it
all the way to Boston, oh I've got to get through.
the going won't be easy but I'm going to make it,
it's the only thing that I'm cut out to do.
...
no more Arizona now, Phoenix is fried up,
Oklahoma City what a pity it's gone,
Louisiana delta where the Mississipp's dried up,
no more Chattanooga, Cherokee, Lexington
...
thank you Dr. Strangelove for going doolally,
leaving me the heritage of Damnation Alley"


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Aldous Huxley, the biography by Nicholas Murray.  A very interesting and intriguing book, recently completed.
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not quite lately, but a book that I absolutely recommend is "Retour à Salem" by Hèlène Grimaud. unfortunately the book has not been translated into English yet; I read it in the German translation where it has the silly title "Das Lied der Natur" ("The song of Nature"). this book was absolutely fascinating; it is partly fictional and partly autobiographical. the fascinating thing is that it is extremely hard if not impossible to tell where the line runs between the two.

the book tells the tale of how while staying at Hamburg for a concert she gave there she found an old antique shop in which she bought two things: a mirror that allegedly belonged to Lewis Carroll and a manuscript written by some Karl Würth, a nom de plum that was used by the German composer Johannes Brahms.

since her German is not good enough to fully understand it she sends the text to a German friend for translation. the book's chapters alternate between her search for more information about the manuscript (which turns out to be a fantastic tale about a travel in a forest on the island Rügen) and the manuscript itself, the translations of which arrive in parts. pictures of the German artist Max Klinger which are described in detail (and actually really exist) play an important role too.

the book is an outcry against the ecological destruction of our planet, but woven into a fantastic (both meanings of fantastic) novel. if you are able to read French or German, get it; if not hope for an English translation. one of the best books I ever read; absolutely fascinating


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I just finished Atlas Shrugged, but now moved away from fiction and reading a book for computer certification.
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Just a number of minutes after posting my note above, regarding the Aldous Huxley biography, I found out about the passing of Umberto Eco.  One of my favourite authors, his THE PRAGUE CEMETERY lays on my stack of books to read, number 6 descending.  Although mainly known for THE NAME OF THE ROSE, I have always been fond of FOUCAULT'S PENDULUM and THE ISLAND OF THE DAY BEFORE.  His serious studies are worth taking note of as well.  Like many of the works of music we discuss here, these books have a sound and quality of their own.

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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

I need to get around to reading more Zelazny one of these days, though I don't read anywhere as much SF/F as I used to  - being more into the crime/horror genres now. I mean, he's after Michael Moorcock probably the author who's inspired the most Hawkwind lyrics...

I'm a fan of his and have read most of his novels though I did this over 30 years ago so I thought I would reread the 9 Princes In Amber which is considered one of the all time great fantasy series.
I did not know that Hawkwind used any Zelazny ideas.


"Damnation Alley" from "Quark, Strangeness and Charm" is based on the Zelazny novel of the same name.

an excerpt from the lyrics:

"I've got the serum and I'm going to take it
all the way to Boston, oh I've got to get through.
the going won't be easy but I'm going to make it,
it's the only thing that I'm cut out to do.
...
no more Arizona now, Phoenix is fried up,
Oklahoma City what a pity it's gone,
Louisiana delta where the Mississipp's dried up,
no more Chattanooga, Cherokee, Lexington
...
thank you Dr. Strangelove for going doolally,
leaving me the heritage of Damnation Alley"
 
I recall seeing a film by the same name.
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Originally posted by Guy Guden Guy Guden wrote:

Just a number of minutes after posting my note above, regarding the Aldous Huxley biography, I found out about the passing of Umberto Eco.  One of my favourite authors, his THE PRAGUE CEMETERY lays on my stack of books to read, number 6 descending.  Although mainly known for THE NAME OF THE ROSE, I have always been fond of FOUCALT'S PENDULUM and THE ISLAND OF THE DAY BEFORE.  His serious studies are worth taking note of as well.  Like many of the works of music we discuss here, these books have a sound and quality of their own.
 
I also enjoyed Name of the Rose and Foucault's Pendulum......started Prague Cemetery a while   back and couldn't get into it at the time.....I'll try it again one day.
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Well..thank you.....I really enjoy dense well written novels that involve metaphysics, esoteric, and or occult topics. Both of those Eco novels did that for me ; I probably wasn't in the right frame of mind when I started Prague Cemetery.
If you know of any novels that have that dense air of mystery like those Eco novels please let me know. I also like a well written sci-fi novel or even fantasy if it's well done.
I recently read The Magicians by Grossman and liked it...they are doing a sci-fi tv series of it right now.
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Ialso liked Foucault's Pendulum a lot. A novel I enjoyed that you might like, if you havent read it already, is The Club Dumas by Arturo Perez-Reverte. I actually saw a movie based on it called The 9th Gate before reading it.

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A provocative literary thriller that playfully pays tribute to classic tales of mystery and adventure

Lucas Corso is a book detective, a middle-aged mercenary hired to hunt down rare editions for wealthy and unscrupulous clients. When a well-known bibliophile is found dead, leaving behind part of the original manuscript of Alexandre Dumas's The Three Musketeers , Corso is brought in to authenticate the fragment. He is soon drawn into a swirling plot involving devil worship, occult practices, and swashbuckling derring-do among a cast of characters bearing a suspicious resemblance to those of Dumas's masterpiece. Aided by a mysterious beauty named for a Conan Doyle heroine, Corso travels from Madrid to Toledo to Paris on the killer's trail in this twisty intellectual romp through the book world.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Ialso liked Foucault's Pendulum a lot. A novel I enjoyed that you might like, if you havent read it already, is The Club Dumas by Arturo Perez-Reverte. I actually saw a movie based on it called The 9th Gate before reading it.

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A provocative literary thriller that playfully pays tribute to classic tales of mystery and adventure

Lucas Corso is a book detective, a middle-aged mercenary hired to hunt down rare editions for wealthy and unscrupulous clients. When a well-known bibliophile is found dead, leaving behind part of the original manuscript of Alexandre Dumas's The Three Musketeers , Corso is brought in to authenticate the fragment. He is soon drawn into a swirling plot involving devil worship, occult practices, and swashbuckling derring-do among a cast of characters bearing a suspicious resemblance to those of Dumas's masterpiece. Aided by a mysterious beauty named for a Conan Doyle heroine, Corso travels from Madrid to Toledo to Paris on the killer's trail in this twisty intellectual romp through the book world.
 
I'll definitely look for that novel.....I liked the film with Depp......good occult drama. That's the kind of thing I enjoy. Thoughtful drama with some metaphysical enigma or mystery going on as the central theme.
One of my favorite short novels about a paranormal mystery is The Investigation by Stanislaw Lem.
 
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Well called, Logan.  I was going to immediately suggest the works of Arturo Perez-Reverte, the Spanish answer to Umberto Eco.  Club Dumas is actually two stories combined, and Polanski abandoned the idea of a missing chapter of Dumas and concentrated on the collector of Demonic Literature; played in the film by Frank Langella.  Perez-Reverte is less satiric than Eco, but a lover of the arcane and antique, nonetheless.  His book
The Flanders Panel has also been filmed in an almost little known production. 
 
Also in this vein can be added Turkey's Orhan Pamuk, the Nobel Prize winning author who also likes a mystery shrouded in arcana.  Although one can't classify his work as sci-fi, I recommend his work My Name Is Red, or earlier works for something mystical and a cut above.
 
In classic sci-fi, say late '40s and primo '50s, many gems abound amongst the pulp deluge.  I'm fond of Ray Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes, John Wyndham's The Chrysalids ( know in the U.S. as Re-birth ) and A. E. Van Vogt's Slan. 
 
And I've been in an Aldous Huxley and George Orwell mood of late that won't abate.
 
There's a wealth of material out there.  I just wish I was 30 years younger to spend the time searching and enjoying.  Dr. Wu and Logan, my best to you.
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