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Poll Question: Who was the most integral member of Yes who defined their essence?
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    Posted: February 09 2013 at 10:53
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Squire, not just the main man but also the one who defined their sound the most to me.  First and foremost, it's that big bass sound that I notice.  I barely take much notice of Anderson except for the wrong reasons but I am sure I am in a minority there.  

Same here; When listening to Yes, sometimes I kind of subconsciously "listen past" Jon's squeaking for the sake of overall enjoyment in general, and that voluptuous bass sound in particular. The Fish Schindleria Prematura is no less than 160 seconds of complete gratification, while the other Fish (the Out-of-Water one) is like an ocean of salacious bliss Smile   


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Squire, not just the main man but also the one who defined their sound the most to me.  First and foremost, it's that big bass sound that I notice.  I barely take much notice of Anderson except for the wrong reasons but I am sure I am in a minority there.  
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Originally posted by Daysbetween Daysbetween wrote:

For me it is Jon Anderson. It just sounds like a different band without JA.

Jon is the sound of Yes, but Yes west in the 80's sounded like a different band with Anderson--but Drama and FFH sound like Yes to me. I think of Yes when I listen Jon's solo stuff (although I don't like most of it) but it doesn't sound like Yes either--other than his great voice.
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For me it is Jon Anderson. It just sounds like a different band without JA.
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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Anderson is the spiritual core, and spirituality is central to what Yes is to me.

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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Argonaught Argonaught wrote:

Successful bands are always synergistic entities (on many levels), which means they are more than the arithmetic sum of their members. Therefore, the question about who defined the success of Yes is hard to answer.
As for the "most integral member", it has to be Chris Squire. He is the only member of Yes who has never left the band and is playing on all albums (yes, this IS important, since we are talking about the whole of Yes career). I'd also argue that the "Squire Sound" - even over the "Anderson Sound" - was the uniquely valuable component of the earlier Yes.  


Well, for me ABWH is really Yes... more so than Yes West, actually. I don't know which legar reasons were there for them not being able to use the Yes name (surely Squire was somewhat involved, wheter intentionally or not), and besides, Union almost made ABWH oficially Yes. Plus, Anderson at least considers the ABWH album as a Yes album, and in some way the rest of the band had agreed with him... while he has been part of the band. If Anderson, Wakeman, and Rabbin end up making their new album together, I guess it would be as much a Yes album for me as "Fly from here" and the new album Yes is thinking about recording with Davison.

I disagree.  Squire had nothing to do with ABWH until Union, and then it was only his vocals.  Whereas there are some definately Yes-like parts to ABWH, it's not Yes without Squire.  Remember, Anderson refuses to do anything from Drama, but Drama rocked - I would absolutely LOVE to hear Anderson sing Tempus Fugit!


Exactly because Squire didn't have anything to do with ABWH is that ABWH is the perfect album to compare how important he was to the Yes sound. Of course, the other problem is that by the 80's they were already making different music than what they did in their prime, so if ABWH isn't as good as their 70's albums, we might blame the time of it's release more than the absence of Squire. Another way to judge who was more Yes might be listening to their solo albums in the 70's (which I haven't heard all, but I guess most here would go with Fish out of Water in that case as the most Yessy). Also, I guess you could compare the Drama and ABWH albums and choose which one better achieves the Yes trademark sound in order to choose between Anderson and Squire. Still, I would have a hard time choosing between Anderson and Squire as the most integral member, perhaps giving the edge to Anderson, and Howe comes in third place. Also, I guess you could compare the Drama and ABWH albums and choose which one better achieves the Yes trademark sound in order to choose between Anderson and Squire.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Argonaught Argonaught wrote:

Successful bands are always synergistic entities (on many levels), which means they are more than the arithmetic sum of their members. Therefore, the question about who defined the success of Yes is hard to answer.
As for the "most integral member", it has to be Chris Squire. He is the only member of Yes who has never left the band and is playing on all albums (yes, this IS important, since we are talking about the whole of Yes career). I'd also argue that the "Squire Sound" - even over the "Anderson Sound" - was the uniquely valuable component of the earlier Yes.  


Well, for me ABWH is really Yes... more so than Yes West, actually. I don't know which legar reasons were there for them not being able to use the Yes name (surely Squire was somewhat involved, wheter intentionally or not), and besides, Union almost made ABWH oficially Yes. Plus, Anderson at least considers the ABWH album as a Yes album, and in some way the rest of the band had agreed with him... while he has been part of the band. If Anderson, Wakeman, and Rabbin end up making their new album together, I guess it would be as much a Yes album for me as "Fly from here" and the new album Yes is thinking about recording with Davison.
I disagree.  Squire had nothing to do with ABWH until Union, and then it was only his vocals.  Whereas there are some definately Yes-like parts to ABWH, it's not Yes without Squire.  Remember, Anderson refuses to do anything from Drama, but Drama rocked - I would absolutely LOVE to hear Anderson sing Tempus Fugit!
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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

It's hard to determine Squire's importance, because he's played on every Yes album, so we don't have any albums without him to judge what impact his absence would have had. 

I'm going to have to go with Steve Howe; the band made at least one good album (90125) without him, but it didn't sound like Yes.  Whenever he's been a member, the band sounded like itself.
That's where you are wrong - we have Anderson, Wakeman and Howe, and it only sounds Yes-like.  As much as I love Tony Levin, he's not Squire.  I feel it's not even his bass playing, it's his harmony vocals that really make the Yes sound.<p>
So I would say Squire.
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Couldn't find David or Davison so decided not to bother..........
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Originally posted by Argonaught Argonaught wrote:

Successful bands are always synergistic entities (on many levels), which means they are more than the arithmetic sum of their members. Therefore, the question about who defined the success of Yes is hard to answer.
As for the "most integral member", it has to be Chris Squire. He is the only member of Yes who has never left the band and is playing on all albums (yes, this IS important, since we are talking about the whole of Yes career). I'd also argue that the "Squire Sound" - even over the "Anderson Sound" - was the uniquely valuable component of the earlier Yes.  


Well, for me ABWH is really Yes... more so than Yes West, actually. I don't know which legal reasons were there for them not being able to use the Yes name (surely Squire was somewhat involved, wheter intentionally or not), and besides, Union almost made ABWH oficially Yes. Plus, Anderson at least considers the ABWH album as a Yes album, and in some way the rest of the band had agreed with him... while he has been part of the band. If Anderson, Wakeman, and Rabbin end up making their new album together, I guess it would be as much a Yes album for me as "Fly from here" and the new album Yes is thinking about recording with Davison.

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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ What's Yes West?
come on you know the band all moved to California--Yes with Rabin otherwise know as Cinema. Everyone knows yo have to have cold damp weather (England) to make good progBig smile
Never heard them referred to that way before.
 
They are often referred to as "Yes West". There were two versions of Yes around - the Rabin/Squire and the ABWH one and they eventually combined (well, sort of) on "Union".
 
As for the answer, it's either Anderson for his vocals and vision which are the heart of the classic Yes or Squire for being the only ever present member. Can't decide.
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Successful bands are always synergistic entities (on many levels), which means they are more than the arithmetic sum of their members. Therefore, the question about who defined the success of Yes is hard to answer.

As for the "most integral member", that would have to be Chris Squire. He is the only member of Yes who has never left the band and played on all albums (yes, this IS important, since we are talking about the whole of the Yes career).

I'd also argue that the "Squire Sound" - even over the "Anderson Sound" - was the uniquely valuable component of the earlier Yes.  


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Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ What's Yes West?
come on you know the band all moved to California--Yes with Rabin otherwise know as Cinema. Everyone knows yo have to have cold damp weather (England) to make good progBig smile
Never heard them referred to that way before.
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Howe for me. I love Squire's bass approach, but one of my favorite aspects of yes is Howe's soaring additions to the mix and inventiveness. Plus, his work on Relayer sets the bar miles above the heads of the vast majority of prog guitarists.

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^ What's Yes West?


Yes West stands for the Yes that produced albums with Trevor Horn and Trevor Rabin and who produced 90125 and Big Generator Wink
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Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Howe for me. I love Squire's bass approach, but one of my favorite aspects of yes is Howe's soaring additions to the mix and inventiveness. Plus, his work on Relayer sets the bar miles above the heads of the vast majority of prog guitarists.

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Howe for me. I love Squire's bass approach, but one of my favorite aspects of yes is Howe's soaring additions to the mix and inventiveness. Plus, his work on Relayer sets the bar miles above the heads of the vast majority of prog guitarists.
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ What's Yes West?

come on you know the band all moved to California--Yes with Rabin otherwise know as Cinema. Everyone knows yo have to have cold damp weather (England) to make good progBig smile
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