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Melomaniac 
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 Topic: The Power To Believe vs. Fly From Here
Posted: January 24 2013 at 13:17 |
While Fly From Here is probably, for me, the best Yes album in ages, The Power To Believe wins here, no question.
I know of no other band born in the 60's that manages to not only remain relevant, but to still be avant-garde. TPTB is among KC's finest to me (along with In The Court, and Red).
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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Posted: January 15 2013 at 20:55 |
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The Power To Believe. I listened to Fly From Here but wasn't moved enough to buy a copy.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Eria Tarka
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Posted: January 15 2013 at 00:28 |
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I'm going with the majority...
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Posted: January 15 2013 at 00:21 |
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King Crimson obviously! |
of course Gandalff you are going to choose them, none here and I love Yes the album stunk (Fly From Here)
Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - January 15 2013 at 00:21
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 20:42 |
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For some reason, if an album has an overall rating of 3.40 - 3.90 it's seen as not so great on this site. Generally, it means there's a lot of good ratings, and some average to bad ratings. For me, i don't generally see overall ratings as average or bad until an album is lower than 3.20
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Progosopher
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 17:07 |
Blacksword wrote:
I've not heard the KC album, but I've noticed there's generally not much love for Fly from Here in this community, which is a shame. I think it's pretty good. |
I don't know as I would say it is not much loved. The album has a 3.44 rating, which is actuallly pretty good. I myself gave it 4 stars. Not a classic, but I agree with you that it is quite a good album.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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zbida
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 16:14 |
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King Crimson here. Fly From Here is nothing special and rather a dissapointment to me. Hard to accept Yes without Jon.
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 14:35 |
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As far as I'm concerned, I probably like the 3 main songs that make the "Fly from Here", plus the last song of the album, better than most of what's included on "Power to Believe" (except for "Level 5", which I really love). But in the end, there's nothing more worthy for me on Yes's album, while just about the whole Crimson's one is really good, so I go with King Crimson. By the way, I guess it would be more acurate to pair "The Power to Believe" with "Magnification". And Perhaps "Fly from Here" with "A Scarcity of Miracles".
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 14:31 |
chopper wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
chopper wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I've not heard the KC album, but I've noticed there's generally not much love for Fly from Here in this community, which is a shame. I think it's pretty good. Far better than some of their post 'Going for the One' efforts in my opinion. I think it marginally better than Drama too. Wasn't most of it composed around that time? |
Well said Andy, I almost totally agree (I don't think it's better than Drama).
The basis of "Fly From Here" does date back to the original Horn/Downes days. They used to perform it live and there's a version on the "The Word is Live" box set. |
For me there are many albums since Going For The One that are better than this effort. In fact it may be the worst. Not that i hate it or anything. It's Ok Yes. |
I'd rate it above "The Ladder", "Magnification" most of "Keys" and, although I've never heard it going by the flak it normally gets, probably "Open Your Eyes" as well. |
Well, if you didn't like "The Ladder" very much, the odds are that you wouldn't like "Open you Eyes" either, they are two of a kind, as far as I remember, it's been a long time since I've listened to either one.
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 14:08 |
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KC by quite a large margin.
Both of these records have that modern clean production, but whereas it compliments the snarling ferocity of TPTB, I think it flattens everything about FFH to the point of numbness.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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Wanorak
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 13:57 |
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The Power to Believe by a mile. Fly From Here is very good but it doesn't touch TPTB IMO.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 09:24 |
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A bit strange compatison. Fly from Here was a lame epigone of a past grace, whilst The Power to Believe is one of the strongest records of the decade (at least for me).
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This night wounds time.
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 08:14 |
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I just love your "Recent Tracks" listing Ian. UK Subs and Mozart - there's a contrast! |
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 08:02 |
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I just love your "Recent Tracks" listing Ian. UK Subs and Mozart - there's a contrast!
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 07:37 |
chopper wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
chopper wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I've not heard the KC album, but I've noticed there's generally not much love for Fly from Here in this community, which is a shame. I think it's pretty good. Far better than some of their post 'Going for the One' efforts in my opinion. I think it marginally better than Drama too. Wasn't most of it composed around that time? |
Well said Andy, I almost totally agree (I don't think it's better than Drama).
The basis of "Fly From Here" does date back to the original Horn/Downes days. They used to perform it live and there's a version on the "The Word is Live" box set. |
For me there are many albums since Going For The One that are better than this effort. In fact it may be the worst. Not that i hate it or anything. It's Ok Yes. |
I'd rate it above "The Ladder", "Magnification" most of "Keys" and, although I've never heard it going by the flak it normally gets, probably "Open Your Eyes" as well. |
I prefer all those including Open Your Eyes. 
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 07:34 |
Snow Dog wrote:
chopper wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I've not heard the KC album, but I've noticed there's generally not much love for Fly from Here in this community, which is a shame. I think it's pretty good. Far better than some of their post 'Going for the One' efforts in my opinion. I think it marginally better than Drama too. Wasn't most of it composed around that time? |
Well said Andy, I almost totally agree (I don't think it's better than Drama).
The basis of "Fly From Here" does date back to the original Horn/Downes days. They used to perform it live and there's a version on the "The Word is Live" box set. |
For me there are many albums since Going For The One that are better than this effort. In fact it may be the worst. Not that i hate it or anything. It's Ok Yes. |
I'd rate it above "The Ladder", "Magnification" most of "Keys" and, although I've never heard it going by the flak it normally gets, probably "Open Your Eyes" as well.
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 07:17 |
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That's what I love about Yes. Even OK Yes is still very enjoyable to me.
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 07:15 |
chopper wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I've not heard the KC album, but I've noticed there's generally not much love for Fly from Here in this community, which is a shame. I think it's pretty good. Far better than some of their post 'Going for the One' efforts in my opinion. I think it marginally better than Drama too. Wasn't most of it composed around that time? |
Well said Andy, I almost totally agree (I don't think it's better than Drama).
The basis of "Fly From Here" does date back to the original Horn/Downes days. They used to perform it live and there's a version on the "The Word is Live" box set. |
For me there are many albums since Going For The One that are better than this effort. In fact it may be the worst. Not that i hate it or anything. It's Ok Yes.
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chopper
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 07:11 |
Blacksword wrote:
I've not heard the KC album, but I've noticed there's generally not much love for Fly from Here in this community, which is a shame. I think it's pretty good. Far better than some of their post 'Going for the One' efforts in my opinion. I think it marginally better than Drama too. Wasn't most of it composed around that time? |
Well said Andy, I almost totally agree (I don't think it's better than Drama).
The basis of "Fly From Here" does date back to the original Horn/Downes days. They used to perform it live and there's a version on the "The Word is Live" box set.
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 07:03 |
Horizons wrote:
A good album vs a really bad one
Voted KC |
wise words
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