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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2013 at 11:30
Yeah, but if you buy them from the Zappas then who cares?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2013 at 11:34
What good are the BTB series if they aren't complete shows and sound bad? I have the show most of Piquantique is from, thanks to Zappateers.com, and not only is it a full show, it's a soundboard recording, meaning it sounds like an actual live album, as opposed to Piquantique which sounds like a really bad audience recording.

We might as well count the "Old Masters" series as well (unfortunately the ZFT assigned them release numbers, but they're not perfect either)

I generally go by this site http://lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/vinylvscds/ as they are quite accurate. Anything in the 'core catalog' and 'posthumous releases' is part of the official discography. Mothermania also counts, as it was put together by FZ.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2013 at 19:46
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

I would've done it 1966-1972 (The Mothers + some solo), 1972-1977 (Jazz and Fusion oriented stuff), 1978-1988 (Goofy lyric oriented pop/rock, Synclavier, and classical), 1988-1994 (live releases, The Yellow Shark, and Civilization III), and 1995-present:

1966-1972:
1.We're Only in it for the Money
2.Freak Out!
3.Hot Rats
4.Lumpy Gravy
5.Absolutely Free

1972-1977:
1.Apostrophe
2.Waka/Jawaka
3.Zoot Allures
4.Over-nite Sensation
5.The Grand Wazoo

1978-1988:
1.You Are What You Is
2.Shut up and Play Yer Guitar
3.Sheik Yerbouti
4.Joe's Garage
5.Them or Us

1988-1994:
1.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol.5
2.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol.1
3.Make a Jazz Noise Here
4.You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol.2
5.The Best Band You've Never Heard in Your Life

1995-present:
1.Finer Moments
2.Läther
3.Imaginary Diseases
4.Hammersmith Odeon
5.Philly '76


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2013 at 22:16
You liked Finer Moments a lot eh? I enjoyed it too, but I haven't given it enough listens. Will have to throw it on again sooner or later.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2013 at 22:24
Yeah, it's a pretty good album. Lots of good solos
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2013 at 22:28
Yea the 2nd track, and the last 2 tracks (I think) on disc 1 have some amazing solos, from both FZ and whoever plays the sax on the Inca Roads-type jam (probably Ian Underwood).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 17:49
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

I would've done it 1966-1972 (The Mothers + some solo), 1972-1977 (Jazz and Fusion oriented stuff), 1978-1988 (Goofy lyric oriented pop/rock, Synclavier, and classical), 1988-1994 (live releases, The Yellow Shark, and Civilization III), and 1995-present:

1966-1972:
1.We're Only in it for the Money
2.Freak Out!
3.Uncle Meat
4.Lumpy Gravy
5.Absolutely Free (tie)
5.Hot Rats (tie)

1972-1977:
1.Apostrophe
2.Waka/Jawaka
3.Zoot Allures
4.Over-nite Sensation
5.The Grand Wazoo

1978-1988:
1.You Are What You Is
2.Shut up and Play Yer Guitar
3.Sheik Yerbouti
4.Joe's Garage
5.Them or Us

1988-1994:
1.Civilization Phaze III
2.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol.5
3.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol.1
4.Playground Psychotics
5.Make a Jazz Noise Here

1995-present:
1.Joe's Corsage
2.Finer Moments
3.Mystery Disc
4.Läther
5.Imaginary Diseases

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2013 at 15:58
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

I would've done it 1966-1972 (The Mothers + some solo), 1972-1977 (Jazz and Fusion oriented stuff), 1978-1988 (Goofy lyric oriented pop/rock, Synclavier, and classical), 1988-1994 (live releases, The Yellow Shark, and Civilization III), and 1995-present:

1966-1972:
1.Freak Out!
2.Hot Rats
3.We're Only in it for the Money
4.Uncle Meat
5.Lumpy Gravy (tie)
5.Absolutely Free (tie)

1972-1977:
1.Apostrophe
2.Waka/Jawaka
3.The Grand Wazoo
4.Zoot Allures
5.Over-nite Sensation

1978-1988:
1.You Are What You Is
2.Shut up and Play Yer Guitar
3.Sheik Yerbouti
4.Joe's Garage
5.Them or Us

1988-1994:
1.Civilization Phaze III
2.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol.5
3.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol.1
4.Playground Psychotics
5.Make a Jazz Noise Here

1995-present:
1.Joe's Corsage
2.Finer Moments
3.Mystery Disc
4.One Shot Deal
5.Läther


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2013 at 23:28
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

I would've done it 1966-1972 (The Mothers + some solo), 1972-1977 (Jazz and Fusion oriented stuff), 1978-1988 (Goofy lyric oriented pop/rock, Synclavier, and classical), 1988-1994 (live releases, The Yellow Shark, and Civilization III), and 1995-present:

1966-1972:
1.Freak Out! (5/5)
2.We're Only in it for the Money
3.Absolutely Free
4.Lumpy Gravy
5.Hot Rats (tie) (4.5/5)
5.Uncle Meat (tie)

1972-1977:
1.Apostrophe (5/5)
2.Waka/Jawaka
3.The Grand Wazoo
4.Zoot Allures (4.5/5)
5.Over-nite Sensation (tie) (4/5)
5.Roxy and Elsewhere (tie)

1978-1988:
1.You Are What You Is (4.5/5)
2.Sheik Yerbouti (4/5)
3.Shut up and Play Yer Guitar
4.Joe's Garage (3.5)
5.Them or Us

1988-1994:
1.Civilization Phaze III (4/5)
2.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol.5
3.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol.1 (3.5/5)
4.Playground Psychotics
5.Make a Jazz Noise Here

1995-present:
1.Läther (4.5/5)
2.Joe's Corsage (4/5)
3.Finer Moments
4.Mystery Disc
5.One Shot Deal

You have to be kidding me, another f**king update?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2013 at 08:13
So now after some time has passed and I've become pretty familiar with the bulk of Zappa's material, this is what I think:

1966-1972
1.Freak Out!
2.Absolutely Free
3.We're Only in it for the Money
4.Uncle Meat
5.Lumpy Gravy

1972-1979
1.Apostrohpe
2.Roxy and Elsewhere
3.The Grand Wazoo
4.Waka/Jawaka
5.Baby Snakes (film)

1979-1987
1.Uncle Meat (film)
2.You Are What You Is
3.Joe's Garage Act I
4.Sheik Yerbouti
5.Shut Up n' Play Yer Guitar

1988-1994
1.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol. 2
2.Ahead of Their Time
3.Make a Jazz Noise Here
4.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol. 5
5.You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol. 1

1994-present
1.Imaginary Diseases
2.Läther
3.Finer Moments
4.Joe's Corsage
5.Hammersmith Odeon
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2014 at 18:45
Felt like doing this again

1966-1972
1.Freak Out!
2.Absolutely Free
3.Uncle Meat
4.We're Only In It For The Money
5.Lumpy Gravy

(all ten stars)

1972-1979
1.Apostrophe
2.The Grand Wazo
3.Roxy and Elsewhere
4.Waka / Jawaka
5.Baby Snakes

(all ten stars)

1979-1987
1.Shiek Yerbouti (nine)
2.Frank Zappa Meets the Mothers of Prevention (eight)
3.You Are What You Is (eight)
4.Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar (eight)
5.Joe's Garage Acts 1-3 (seven)

1988-1994
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, Vol.2 (nine)
Ahead of Their Time (eight)
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, Vol.1 (eight)
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, Vol.5 (eight)
Make A Jazz Noise Here (eight)

1994-present
1.Lather
2.Finer Moments
3.Hammersmith Odeon
4.Imaginary Diseases
5.Wazoo

(all nine stars)

Some Boots*:
8-21-73, Stockholm (ten)
10-26-68, Olympia, Paris (nine)
Anyway the Wind Blows (nine)
The Ark (eight)
12-15-70, Paris (eight)


*Don't worry, moderators; all of these are legal, as they've either been re-released by Zappa under the Beat the Boots series, or are released through zappateers.com, which has the blessing of the Zappa family
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2014 at 19:24
1966-1972
1. Uncle Meat
2. Hot Rats
3. Lumpy Gravy
4. Weasels Ripped My Flesh
5. Absolutely Free

1972-1979
1. One Size Fits All
2. The Grand Wazoo
3. '
4. Over-nite Sensation
5. Waka/Jawaka

1979-1987
1. Joe's Garage
2. Sheik Yerbouti
3. Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar
4. Sleep Dirt
5. You Are What You Is

1988-1994
1994-present
Unfortunately I don't own enough of these to say :(
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2014 at 19:52
1966-1979......both periods within that time frame are excellent....but Hot Rats has always been my personal favorite by Zappa.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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