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Kotro 
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:17 |
As a Rush fan I find it very hard to choose a favorite track or album, there is too much I love equaly - but in a band that puts everything they come up with on their albums there are bound to be some lesser material. Personaly, I find that most of their longer tracks are not at the same level as the shorter ones - they never did master the "epic" format, IMO.
So, here is a list of all their tracks over 8 minutes long, which I find is an adequate lenght for a song to enter the "epic" scope. Jacob's Ladder, off by just over 30 seconds from the 8 minute mark, is the only exception, as I feel that track's structure is closer the other tracks that to Rush's shorter songs.
Myself, I think I have to go with The Camera Eye. I think it's the weakest piece on an almost faultless record, just too long, repetitive, boring.
Edited by Kotro - February 14 2013 at 15:18
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:21 |
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:28 |
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Jacob's Ladder, too repetitive for my liking it's still good though
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:30 |
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The Camera Eye here also. 2nd least favorite of the longs would be Jacob's Ladder. Xanadu & Cygnus X1 are obviously excellent songs, but for some reason I have ALWAYS had a very soft spot for The Necromancer and The Fountain of Lamneth, all of Caress of Steel for that matter. Of all the early albums and epics, I think Geddy's vocals on CoS are the most heartfelt, and Necromancer has some very trippy moments and hard rocking moments, and I love the diversity of Lamneth.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:32 |
 Melomaniac wrote:
The Camera Eye here also. 2nd least favorite of the longs would be Jacob's Ladder. Xanadu & Cygnus X1 are obviously excellent songs, but for some reason I have ALWAYS had a very soft spot for The Necromancer and The Fountain of Lamneth, all of Caress of Steel for that matter. Of all the early albums and epics, I think Geddy's vocals on CoS are the most heartfelt, and Necromancer has some very trippy moments and hard rocking moments, and I love the diversity of Lamneth. |
What's wrong with The Camera Eye?? I love it
Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 14 2013 at 15:32
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:34 |
Kotro wrote:
As a Rush fan I find it very hard to choose a favorite track or album, there is too much I love equaly - but in a band that puts everything they come up with on their albums there are bound to be some lesser material. Personaly, I find that most of their longer tracks are not at the same level as the shorter ones - they never did master the "epic" format, IMO.
So, here is a list of all their tracks over 8 minutes long, which I find is an adequate lenght for a song to enter the "epic" scope. Jacob's Ladder, off by just over 30 seconds from the 8 minute mark, is the only exception, as I feel that track's structure is closer the other tracks that to Rush's shorter songs.
Myself, I think I have to go with The Camera Eye. I think it's the weakest piece on an almost faultless record, just too long, repetitive, boring.
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 you are smoking something, nothing repetitive about it, now Jacob's Ladder is a different story
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"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Green Shield Stamp
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:35 |
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Hemispheres. 18.04 minutes? I thought it was much longer!
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Haiku
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Melomaniac
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:35 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Melomaniac wrote:
The Camera Eye here also. 2nd least favorite of the longs would be Jacob's Ladder. Xanadu & Cygnus X1 are obviously excellent songs, but for some reason I have ALWAYS had a very soft spot for The Necromancer and The Fountain of Lamneth, all of Caress of Steel for that matter. Of all the early albums and epics, I think Geddy's vocals on CoS are the most heartfelt, and Necromancer has some very trippy moments and hard rocking moments, and I love the diversity of Lamneth. |
What's wrong with The Camera Eye?? I love it
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There is nothing wrong with The Camera Eye per se, I love it also (almost an unconditional Rush fan myself, except for that dreadful Test for Echo album), it's just the one I love the least ; I think it would have been a better song had it been shorter and less repetitive.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:44 |
repetitive???  I don't hear it? Where?? the riff before the verses?? I feel it's brilliant and not repetitive
Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 14 2013 at 15:45
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Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:47 |
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Easily 2112 for me. I like everything else on the list significantly better.
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Horizons
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:54 |
By-Tor is an easy choice for me. Never cared for it. I much rather listen to Anthem or Fly By Night.
Fountain having two votes? Have they ever listened to it?
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:58 |
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Fountain having two votes? Have they ever listened to it? |
I feel the same way, I think it's absolutely amazing and varied. But to each their own, and I think this forum would be a better place if we all respected each other's opinions and tastes ! 
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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Earthmover
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 15:58 |
What? Fountain of Lamneth is one of the best Rush songs, not one of the worst. That said, I simply hate By-Tor.
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 16:01 |
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the Necromancer.
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 16:02 |
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In all honesty, I like them all but I voted for the Fountain of Lamneth in part because it's not integrated as one unified piece imo and also because I like it least. It just doesn't strike me as an epic or long track but rather a bunch of songs stiched together.
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Hercules
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 16:06 |
I like all of them a lot.
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 16:10 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
In all honesty, I like them all but I voted for the Fountain of Lamneth in part because it's not integrated as one unified piece imo and also because I like it least. It just doesn't strike me as an epic or long track but rather a bunch of songs stiched together.
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It's a sort of a proto-2112. Instead of a single,progressing tune - it tends to have the feeling of movements. I don't really think this takes away from the song, but rather how the movements are stitched together. I'd agree that Fountain seems like the movements are a bit abrupt, but the track as a whole is quite enjoyable.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 16:18 |
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The Camera Eye
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Mr. Mustard
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 16:23 |
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They're all good, But The Fountain is a tad messy.
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 16:51 |
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I like all of these. I vote for By-Tor and the Snow Dog, just before The Necromancer and 2112.
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