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    Posted: February 16 2013 at 21:52
Flamenco music includes a variety of Spanish music.
I consider the Paso Doble also as Flamenco Music, am I wrong? The paso doble rhythm can be either 2/4 or 6/8.
Kindly please advise?
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I am not an expert but my thoughts are that :
- the origin of those dances is not the same (Mexico vs Andalusia)
- handclaps and foottreading are used in flamenco while not in paso doble
- flamenco is mostly danced alone while paso doble is played with a partner
- paso doble is associated with corridas and bullfights (march music) while flamenco is associated with gypsy and bohemian life

I may be wrong with some assessments but these are my thoughts on the topic.
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^
or the proggy band Carmen ?
And for some raw flamenco, Carmen Linares and Juan Carmona are mandatory listen.
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Hi Sonia (I never know if you prefer being called Sonia or Kati around here?)

Being Spanish I hope that I can help, they are actually completely different styles of music. Not being a professional musician I may not be able to give a very technical explanation of the differences but I'l try to explain.

Pasodoble (in Spain we usually write it as one word) is an older style originating in military march music with a two-beat structure designed to provide parading soldiers 120 steps per minute. More modern non-military incarnations of Pasodoble are formally more flexible but the spirit is still similar.

On the cultural aspect, Pasodoble was a popular genre admired in a large part of Spain and all it's ethnic groups (mainly by the major ethnic group of Mediterranean and Castilian white people) and it became frequently associated with bullfighting and festivities celebrations, while Flamenco originated in the Gipsy ethnic group in the southern region of Andalusia and it was usually played and danced in an intimate environment in the Gipsy communities.

Instrumentally Pasodoble has usually winds and military-style snare drums which Flamenco does not have, and it is frequently instrumental (though not always).

Dance-wise Pasodoble is danced in couple while Flamenco is mostly danced by single dancers (frequently in group but not holding each other).

Flamenco is mostly played only on Spanish guitar, castanets (the small percussive instrument held in the hands by the female dancers), hand-clapping and cajon (a percussive wooden box). There is much instrumental Flamenco but it is mostly sung with an extremely emotional style, called 'cante jondo'.

TYPICAL PASODOBLE



TYPICAL FLAMENCO



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Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

I am not an expert but my thoughts are that :
- the origin of those dances is not the same (Mexico vs Andalusia)
- handclaps and foottreading are used in flamenco while not in paso doble
- flamenco is mostly danced alone while paso doble is played with a partner
- paso doble is associated with corridas and bullfights (march music) while flamenco is associated with gypsy and bohemian life

I may be wrong with some assessments but these are my thoughts on the topic.
I only have to correct you on the first statement, they both originated in Spain, for the rest you passed the test  Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lucas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2013 at 09:00
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

I am not an expert but my thoughts are that :
- the origin of those dances is not the same (Mexico vs Andalusia)
- handclaps and foottreading are used in flamenco while not in paso doble
- flamenco is mostly danced alone while paso doble is played with a partner
- paso doble is associated with corridas and bullfights (march music) while flamenco is associated with gypsy and bohemian life

I may be wrong with some assessments but these are my thoughts on the topic.
I only have to correct you on the first statement, they both originated in Spain, for the rest you passed the test  Tongue


ok, thanks I should double-check my sources Wink
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