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The Role of Virtuosity in Progressive Music |
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 10215 |
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I'm a Yes and Genesis fan......and both guitarists are unique but at times I want to change the way Howe's guitar sounds. For me it's probably the' trebly' tone he uses.
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Dayvenkirq ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10966 |
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^ Well, he grew up on RnR, so I guess that's wear he got the idea for the trebly tone and didn't go for something heavier.
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"Books were only one type of receptacle where we stored a lot of things we were afraid we might forget. There is nothing magical in them at all. The magic is only in what books say, ... ."
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 7431 |
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Hi,
Kinda scary thought to think that even pop music does not have any virtuosity in it ... which would beg the question ... why we buying it, then? There has to be more to it, somewhere!
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... none of the hits, none of the time ... now you know what the inner art is all about!
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Dayvenkirq ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10966 |
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^ Why is it a scary thought?
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"Books were only one type of receptacle where we stored a lot of things we were afraid we might forget. There is nothing magical in them at all. The magic is only in what books say, ... ."
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 12789 |
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Nonsense.
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: DAC LAND Status: Offline Points: 6140 |
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Does DUKE have virtuosity in it? I kind of think it does. It's a very accessable prog album...pop like at times.
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Raving and drooling I leaned on his neck with a screeeeeeeamm! ;)
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Online Points: 7488 |
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Just found two counterexamples to a suggestion made earlier that virtuosity is more relevant in entertainment than art. Um, One More Red Nightmare for Ian McDonald's saxophone work and Dancing with the moonlit knight for Collins's work on drums! Esp the former....he's not really trying to play blinding fast but it is certainly well beyond the reach of a mediocre musician. And at the same time it's very expressive. Parts, if not of all the expression actually come from his improvisational approach where he contrasts sections with lots of notes played quickly with ones where he just 'lazily' lays down a few spaced out notes. It's not as such a particularly different approach from jazz, much of which would be considered art rather than just entertainment music.
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TGM: Orb ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 21 2007 Status: Offline Points: 8050 |
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I suppose my main question for the thread is whether you'd want anyone else singing and playing that... And similarly, Edited by TGM: Orb - May 11 2013 at 01:04 |
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Online Points: 7488 |
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I don't know about Duke but Toto did have plenty of virtuosity and were a top pop group in the 80s. I think at least until the advent of boybands and girlgroups ![]() Edited by rogerthat - May 11 2013 at 01:49 |
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Xonty ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 23 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1725 |
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It's a great advantage to bands (such as Steve Howe's excellent guitar playing in Yes
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ExittheLemming ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: A Land Mass Status: Offline Points: 9076 |
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It can't be beyond the realms of possibility that the greatest public speaker in the world has precisely zero opinions of their own? Eloquence is not tantamount to 'smart'' e.g there are those who can express their ignorance brilliantly and very entertainingly...
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