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Poll Question: what is your favoured of the three
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    Posted: February 24 2013 at 02:51
To clearify, im maybe gonna wright my paper in English bahceleor about 70s surrealisme in multimedia, or in the popular media, and I can't think of anything more surreal then Monty Pythons humour, vissulars and language, tHGttGs surreal humor, world and to Genesis lyrical themes that overall deals with surrealisme, with both leadvocalists, the overall theme in the lyrics of Genesis is dreams, surreal, greek mythology and things I assosiate with surrealisme,

I can't think of a more surralistic themed lyricaly band as Genesis, Pink Floyd who was Douglas Adams favoured band, or Beatles or Procol Harum is as surreal as the lyrics in Genesis, in my head Genesis is the most pythonesque of the prog bamds, in humor, in sillyness but also smartness, i don't know any other bands that i could compare to the surral ways of Life of Brian, or Hitchhikers Guide other the compare them ot the Lamb, in a way, maybe I overthinks this way to much,

But i want in my paper to compare and discuss  them together, in a context to how surrealisme both could be intellegent but also appeal to the mass marked, in the 70s and 80s, without lacking relevance,

I might also include books like Thorugh the Looking Glass and Roald Dahl into the bacheleor papers im gona wright.  

Edited by aginor - February 24 2013 at 02:53
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Post Options Post Options   Quote irrelevant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2013 at 11:29
Don't really know The Hitchhiker's Guide well enough to vote in the poll... 

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Satie's music was highly associated with surrealism, esp. his ballet "Parade" which used milk bottles among other things in its orchestration. Some of his harmony is also atonal but triadic using familiar elements to create something strange, surreal, and impressionistic.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2013 at 13:39
have to check that out
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Post Options Post Options   Quote thellama73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2013 at 19:04
I thought this poll was going to be about the actual surrealist movement. :(

Voted other, because there are too many great ones. Satie is an excellent call, but let's not forget the writings of Andre Breton, Benjamin Peret, Tristan Tzara, Louis Aragon, the art of Marcel Duchamp, Max Ernst, Rene Magritte, and of course the ultimate in Dada-esque music, Nurse With Wound.
(I know Dada and Surrealism aren't the same thing, but come on, close enough)

For anyone interested in delving into the subject, I highly recommend Andre Breton's "Anthology of Black Humor."
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Quiet One Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2013 at 22:28
BUĐUEL!

Like Llama, I thought this was about the actual movement.

Nothing wrong with Monty Python, though.

Seriously, check out Bu˝uel's 70s movies if you're only going to take the 70s. The Discreet Charm of the Burgoise, The Milky Way, Phantom of Liberty. All top-notch surrealism, absurd and radical.

Also, do read the First Surrealist Manifesto by Breton, it's pretty interesting and fundamental to understand the movement.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2013 at 02:43
Originally posted by The Quiet One

BUĐUEL!

Like Llama, I thought this was about the actual movement.

Nothing wrong with Monty Python, though.

Seriously, check out Bu˝uel's 70s movies if you're only going to take the 70s. The Discreet Charm of the Burgoise, The Milky Way, Phantom of Liberty. All top-notch surrealism, absurd and radical.

Also, do read the First Surrealist Manifesto by Breton, it's pretty interesting and fundamental to understand the movement.
my paper is gonna posibly be about the connection between surrealisme, and art, and in the link between intellegent entertainment and comercial appeal or success, into 3 domains of litterature, TV and music i regard as surrealistic in their showcasing their art, and in the different shapes it is shown, i regard Genesis to be the prog band that include the most surreal imagery of the prog bands, who also obtained a high commercial appeal, Yes is more odd then surreal, (in terms of lyrics),

I might insteda focus on books like Alice in Wonderland, the Wizard of OZ, Peter Pan and the Witches.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SaltyJon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2013 at 00:04
Monty Python and Hitchhiker's Guide, no Genesis though.  No option for combos other than all, so no vote. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jude111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2013 at 22:02
Originally posted by aginor

To clearify, im maybe gonna wright my paper in English bahceleor about 70s surrealisme in multimedia, or in the popular media, and I can't think of anything more surreal then Monty Pythons humour, vissulars and language, tHGttGs surreal humor, world and to Genesis lyrical themes that overall deals with surrealisme, with both leadvocalists, the overall theme in the lyrics of Genesis is dreams, surreal, greek mythology and things I assosiate with surrealisme,

I can't think of a more surralistic themed lyricaly band as Genesis, Pink Floyd who was Douglas Adams favoured band, or Beatles or Procol Harum is as surreal as the lyrics in Genesis, in my head Genesis is the most pythonesque of the prog bamds, in humor, in sillyness but also smartness, i don't know any other bands that i could compare to the surral ways of Life of Brian, or Hitchhikers Guide other the compare them ot the Lamb, in a way, maybe I overthinks this way to much,

But i want in my paper to compare and discuss  them together, in a context to how surrealisme both could be intellegent but also appeal to the mass marked, in the 70s and 80s, without lacking relevance,

I might also include books like Thorugh the Looking Glass and Roald Dahl into the bacheleor papers im gona wright.  


Anyone writing abut Surrealism in the 1970s and not saying anything about Luis Bunuel's great 70s works hasn't been doing their homework!!!!!!! :-)

Hint: Bunuel was a father and founder of surrealism, his first film was made in collaboration with Salvaor Dali in 1928, and he made some of his greatest films in the 1970s, including The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie and Phantom of Liberty (my two favorite films of all time - by anyone), as well as Tristana and That Obsure Object of Desire.

Also, The Hitchhiker's Guide and Genesis have absolutely nothing to do with Surrealism, as far as I'm aware.

If there's a 'surrealism' in tv in the 70s, then surely it's Python.

Surrealism was related to Dadaism, and both were revolutionary political movements as much as art & literary movements. Surrealism was famously an attempt to marry Marx and Freud. Genesis simply cannot apply, no way. Not aesthetically, not lyrically, not ideologically - there's simply no connection.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote jude111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2013 at 22:05
Originally posted by The Quiet One

BUĐUEL!

Like Llama, I thought this was about the actual movement.

Nothing wrong with Monty Python, though.

Seriously, check out Bu˝uel's 70s movies if you're only going to take the 70s. The Discreet Charm of the Burgoise, The Milky Way, Phantom of Liberty. All top-notch surrealism, absurd and radical.

Also, do read the First Surrealist Manifesto by Breton, it's pretty interesting and fundamental to understand the movement.

Hmm, okay, you beat me to the punch, LOL. I posted mine before reading yours...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Knobby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2013 at 22:10
How can one have surrealism in music?
Surrealism is a visual deal mainly.
 
Literary surrealism - know Tommasso Landolfi short stories?  Belcampo? Lautremont?
 
 
When you speak surrealism in music, its just a confusion of term. What you really mean is avant musics or musique concrete.
 
Surreal in music would be music that jars, that has disturbing/shocking/challanging juxtapositions of style.Slightly inimical ,disparate, once-thought incompatable genres thrown together. Satie mixed  street music with classical, Messaien,Milhaud,mid-Stravinsky....
 
Nowadays everything has become meltingpot blend of genres - the term surreal has no meaning in music anymore. Especially fusion & rock.
 
Surrealism in music is a very early term mainly down to classical composers. Has little meaning today.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote jude111 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2013 at 22:22
Originally posted by Knobby

How can one have surrealism in music?



Edited by jude111 - June 07 2013 at 22:23
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How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?
 
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