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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: March 06 2013 at 11:14 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Of those listed:
.... The Jimi Hendrix Experience - I am one of the few people who actually think Hendrix was over-rated (so shoot me) & never actually liked much other than the obvious few tracks
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Not to sound rude or insult your opinions (the Moody Blues do rule, BTW ), but why is Hendrix overrated in your book?
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jude111
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Posted: March 06 2013 at 11:56 |
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
Not to sound rude or insult your opinions (the Moody Blues do rule, BTW ), but why is Hendrix overrated in your book?
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What's turned me off totally about Hendrix is the godlike-adoration bestowed upon him by obsessives. Almost always American. Always white. Always male. (And curiously enough, usually from Florida.) Always a guitar player himself. If I'm totally honest, I quite enjoyed Hendrix when I was into his music and last listened to him 20 years a go or so. But I'm usually not so honest. Usually I'll say something like, "Hendrix, ugh. Change the subject, you don't want to know what I think." The people I know who have a near-worship for Hendrix, they shut down when it comes to any other music. It's the only music for them, unless it's someone close, like Stevie Ray Vaughan (whose music I was subjected to once for an hour by an obsessed Hendrix fan, who made me watch a dvd - and I never need to hear Vaughan's music again, I've been properly traumatized).
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Posted: March 06 2013 at 12:03 |
Gave Iron Butterfly my vote because no one else did so far. I can't decide really. I dig them all.
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: March 06 2013 at 14:07 |
jude111 wrote:
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
Not to sound rude or insult your opinions (the Moody Blues do rule, BTW ), but why is Hendrix overrated in your book?
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What's turned me off totally about Hendrix is the
godlike-adoration bestowed upon him by obsessives. Almost always
American. Always white. Always male. (And curiously enough, usually from
Florida.) Always a guitar player himself. If I'm totally honest, I
quite enjoyed Hendrix when I was into his music and last listened to him
20 years a go or so. But I'm usually not so honest. Usually I'll say
something like, "Hendrix, ugh. Change the subject, you don't want to
know what I think." The people I know who have a near-worship for
Hendrix, they shut down when it comes to any other music. It's the only
music for them, unless it's someone close, like Stevie Ray Vaughan
(whose music I was subjected to once for an hour by an obsessed Hendrix
fan, who made me watch a dvd - and I never need to hear Vaughan's music
again, I've been properly traumatized).
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I can see that happening. To be honest, I was pretty
much like this as a kid with my like for the Beatles. Nine
times out of ten, that would be the music I would listen to and would
try to get people into them, regardless of whether or not they were
interested. It got to a point where my mother and sister would get tired
of it. I like to think I've gotten better, but, given my asking of why
Hendrix is overrated, I think I still need to work on that. From your experience, I guess it has something to do with what some people like to call the "Citizen Kane effect", where a work of art, whether or not it live up to the hype, has been praised by so many people, it's reached the point that it's universally accepted to be the greatest work of all time. Anyone attempting to question that work and/or present an alternative as something that could be just as good, if not better, would be accused of being contrarian for the sake of it. BTW, I voted for Hendrix, but the Doors, the Moody Blues, the Byrds and the Soft Machine also have some stuff that's worth a listen or two or more.
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jude111
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Posted: March 06 2013 at 14:39 |
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
jude111 wrote:
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
Not to sound rude or insult your opinions (the Moody Blues do rule, BTW ), but why is Hendrix overrated in your book?
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What's turned me off totally about Hendrix is the
godlike-adoration bestowed upon him by obsessives. Almost always
American. Always white. Always male. (And curiously enough, usually from
Florida.) Always a guitar player himself. If I'm totally honest, I
quite enjoyed Hendrix when I was into his music and last listened to him
20 years a go or so. But I'm usually not so honest. Usually I'll say
something like, "Hendrix, ugh. Change the subject, you don't want to
know what I think." The people I know who have a near-worship for
Hendrix, they shut down when it comes to any other music. It's the only
music for them, unless it's someone close, like Stevie Ray Vaughan
(whose music I was subjected to once for an hour by an obsessed Hendrix
fan, who made me watch a dvd - and I never need to hear Vaughan's music
again, I've been properly traumatized).
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I can see that happening. To be honest, I was pretty
much like this as a kid with my like for the Beatles. Nine
times out of ten, that would be the music I would listen to and would
try to get people into them, regardless of whether or not they were
interested. It got to a point where my mother and sister would get tired
of it. I like to think I've gotten better, but, given my asking of why
Hendrix is overrated, I think I still need to work on that.
From your experience, I guess it has something to do with what some people like to call the "Citizen Kane effect", where a work of art, whether or not it live up to the hype, has been praised by so many people, it's reached the point that it's universally accepted to be the greatest work of all time. Anyone attempting to question that work and/or present an alternative as something that could be just as good, if not better, would be accused of being contrarian for the sake of it.
BTW, I voted for Hendrix, but the Doors, the Moody Blues, the Byrds and the Soft Machine also have some stuff that's worth a listen or two or more.
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Haha, but Beatles fans are usually much more open, in my experience.
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Stool Man
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Posted: March 06 2013 at 15:08 |
and Yoko Ono fans?
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jude111
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Posted: March 06 2013 at 15:13 |
Stool Man wrote:
and Yoko Ono fans? |
I never met one!
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The-time-is-now
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 08:01 |
The Moody Blues.
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 08:17 |
Stool Man wrote:
With a title like "The Sixties", this poll ought to have at least sixty bands in it.
And let's also discuss the music of these and other bands, rather than posting a repetitive list of the same few names over and |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 09:00 |
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
Not to sound rude or insult your opinions (the Moody Blues do rule, BTW ), but why is Hendrix overrated in your book? | Not at all, it's a fair question - to be honest, I found his guitar style sloppy & repetitive & in my opinion, he was worshiped mainly due to the fact he was (arguably) the first to play in that style; some of those he influenced (again in my opinion) did it better. Yes, I'm talking about Robin Trower & (to a lesser extent) Frank Marino, here. Now I am going to get shot
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 09:12 |
Jim Garten wrote:
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
Not to sound rude or insult your opinions (the Moody Blues do rule, BTW ), but why is Hendrix overrated in your book? |
Not at all, it's a fair question - to be honest, I found his guitar style sloppy & repetitive & in my opinion, he was worshiped mainly due to the fact he was (arguably) the first to play in that style; some of those he influenced (again in my opinion) did it better.
Yes, I'm talking about Robin Trower & (to a lesser extent) Frank Marino, here.
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Better duck comrade!!!!
Naw, in all seriousness, and even if I myself worship Hendrix, then I can understand where you're coming from. Jimi wasn't the ONLY to bring something new to the table in those days, and many of his "styles" were indeed also adopted by others successfully. I don't know whether they did it better, but hey that's all down to taste. As you mentioned Trower and Marino. One more whom I think deserves mentioning is Peter Green. Man he was smoking on The End of the Game. Gotta love the leopard cover too
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ole-the-first
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 11:22 |
How could The Moody Blues receive more votes than The Doors? They released only one classic album, 'Days of Future Passed', the rest was pretty second-grade.
And The Doors is one of the most innovative yet greatly enjoyable bands of all time.
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 11:24 |
ole-the-first wrote:
And The Doors is one of the most innovative yet greatly enjoyable bands of all time. | I preferred them when they got some attitude & renamed themselved The Stranglers
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 11:29 |
ole-the-first wrote:
How could The Moody Blues receive more votes than The Doors? They released only one classic album, 'Days of Future Passed', the rest was pretty second-grade.
And The Doors is one of the most innovative yet greatly enjoyable bands of all time.
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Meh. I never really thought that highly of the Doors. And Jim Morrison was overrated as both a lyricist and a singer. Most of their stuff irritates me. Maybe an enjoyable song here and there if I can get past Morrison's drunken baritone.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 11:33 |
I love everything The Doors ever made. There I said it. Jim's vocals are my absolute favourite on the planet, and I just love the mad concoction of a classically trained pianist, a blues and flamenco guitarist, a jazz drummer and a warped poet with an affinity for the spiritual. Can't beat that imo
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Moogtron III
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 13:20 |
The Moodies just before Soft Machine
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ole-the-first
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 15:47 |
The Doctor wrote:
ole-the-first wrote:
How could The Moody Blues receive more votes than The Doors? They released only one classic album, 'Days of Future Passed', the rest was pretty second-grade.
And The Doors is one of the most innovative yet greatly enjoyable bands of all time.
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Meh. I never really thought that highly of the Doors. And Jim Morrison was overrated as both a lyricist and a singer. Most of their stuff irritates me. Maybe an enjoyable song here and there if I can get past Morrison's drunken baritone. |
As singer maybe, but as lyricist? The fact that his lyrics irritate you doesn't mean that he was overrated.
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 16:05 |
Jim Garten wrote:
ole-the-first wrote:
And The Doors is one of the most innovative yet greatly enjoyable bands of all time. |
I preferred them when they got some attitude & renamed themselved The Stranglers |
Wow, Jim's really going for it in this thread!
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Hawkwise
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 16:26 |
Moody Blues by long waaaaaaaaaay
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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