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moshkito 
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 04 2007
Location: Grok City
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Points: 16148
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 Posted: March 13 2013 at 08:57 |
Hi, Honestly ... I don't know ... a bit of everything. As a reviewer, knowing your product and what you are seeing is important ... but above all, knowing what YOUR feelings are about the film/music at hand is much more important. I do my best to interpret these, despite some folks at PA not liking it. But I can say that my reviews have been used in several Film Festivals accross the world, and are in the Internet Movie Database, and I am no longer looking for "acceptance" for my views ... since they are floating ideas and comments that could change tomorrow with different circumstances and understandings. As such, a database/fan related thing will not like that kind of individuality ... but I have already come to grips with the socialistic and communistic nature of any database! All the arts, fit into areas that people either love it or hate it, or want to create laws against it. I consider myself part of the group that fights the establishment for their laziness and lack of ability to even do a manicure or pedicure -- not to mention remove the stentch that comes with it -- in order to allow the person to be seen ... and appreciated. PA has a lot of good, that is not organized, and in the end, this is just a database, and nothing else, and a place like Wiki, is at least making an effort to organize all the gibberish in the database, so that anyone can find things better, more efficiently, and it fills a better niche, as an information tool. The sad thing about ... just a database ... is that nothing in it will be kept, or used, or saved, in due time ... and a lot of work and appreciation will get wasted, the day that someone says ... we're wasting that much hard drive space? ... and ciao baby ... but then, isn't that the nature of the internet and "information" ... and at the very least, we know the artists will outive that stuff way more and better! But I am not sure that anyone can organize and improve things any more ... and no one is getting paid to do it, which is the real issue in the end! Maybe start up a subscription service and hope that folks stick to it -- but that's scary in its own right, and too many fans will leave tomorrow for a different pasture ... !!! ... that's a fan for you! But there are some excellent folks here ... and I hate to see their knowledge and appreciation and work wasted here, there, or anywhere! And some of the knowledge goes even further ...
Edited by moshkito - March 13 2013 at 09:04
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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TODDLER
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: August 28 2009
Location: Vineland, N.J.
Status: Offline
Points: 3126
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 07:43 |
 HolyMoly wrote:
TODDLER wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
I appreciate the fact that pretty much everyone here, regardless of political beliefs, age, or demographic, seems to feel and act like an individual with a skeptical eye towards mainstream thought. On most other boards I've been on, there's a tendency for conformity and not questioning things. In my experience here, everyone seems to have a sound mind of their own, as well as a mutual respect for each others' individuality. I think that's what I like the best, and it's probably a trait of progressive rock types in general, and probably why I was attracted to the music in the first place. |
Really? A mutual respect? I find that difficult to believe |
I see what you're saying -- but despite some heated arguments that occasionally get ugly, I do believe that at the end of the day we're glad that we're all different, and wouldn't have it any other way. Doesn't mean we all have to like each other, or even treat each other with total courtesy all the time. We're human. That's all I'm sayin'.
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When I first joined there were a few members who disliked King Crimson...which is not the point or issue. I mention this because their dislike for the band was what they presented on the surface. I personally had a problem with their abundance of confidence as they stated their false claims. I would state facts about the foundation of the band which was a road painted for other bands to follow and they would disagree by saying things like...huh? What planet are you from? Where do you come up with such ideas? ..and the more harsh attacks they made I will not mention. And then it was obvious they liked YES and hated K.C. If a member on this site states facts that prove me wrong..I will say..okay..you're correct and I'm incorrect. How can you be so stupied and ignorant to not admit you are wrong..or to feel that you don't need to learn anything new based on the dream that you already know everything? and that was a problem I dealt with for a very long extensive time. I've surpassed the levels which ..I dwelt in the house of the dead for a while because of it..but in point I was rather shocked to face someone who attempted to prove that what I'd learned the whole of my life was wrong. No offense to anyone belonging to this site, just color me surprised how some individuals will disagree with what is evident in prog.
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rdtprog
Special Collaborator
Heavy, RPI, Symph, JR/F Canterbury Teams
Joined: April 04 2009
Location: Mtl, QC
Status: Offline
Points: 5129
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 13:45 |
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Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness.
Emile M. Cioran
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jude111
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 20 2009
Location: Not Here
Status: Offline
Points: 1725
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 13:42 |
Barbu wrote:
I've already confessed, no need to confess again. |
Dylan, yeah ;-)
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Barbu
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 09 2005
Location: infinity
Status: Offline
Points: 30845
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 13:22 |
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I've already confessed, no need to confess again.
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin & Razor Guru
Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 12:18 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
Turns out we look similar, too: |
Nah, Peter's not bad looking!  |
Git
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 Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin
Joined: April 01 2009
Location: Atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 26133
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 11:56 |
TODDLER wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
I appreciate the fact that pretty much everyone here, regardless of political beliefs, age, or demographic, seems to feel and act like an individual with a skeptical eye towards mainstream thought. On most other boards I've been on, there's a tendency for conformity and not questioning things. In my experience here, everyone seems to have a sound mind of their own, as well as a mutual respect for each others' individuality. I think that's what I like the best, and it's probably a trait of progressive rock types in general, and probably why I was attracted to the music in the first place. |
Really? A mutual respect? I find that difficult to believe |
I see what you're saying -- but despite some heated arguments that occasionally get ugly, I do believe that at the end of the day we're glad that we're all different, and wouldn't have it any other way. Doesn't mean we all have to like each other, or even treat each other with total courtesy all the time. We're human. That's all I'm sayin'.
Edited by HolyMoly - March 12 2013 at 11:59
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My other avatar is a Porsche
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased.
-Kehlog Albran
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 11:48 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Turns out we look similar, too: |
Nah, Peter's not bad looking! |
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin & Razor Guru
Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 11:42 |
rdtprog wrote:
I found on PA that virtual connections could be more real than those i have with my real friends.... |
Simple way to change that - if possible, change 'virtual' to 'real'; I've done so on several occasions with people I first met online here. One in particular hails from Canada & my wife & I have now been on several holidays to Newfoundland with his family. Turns out we look similar, too: 
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Mormegil
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 03 2010
Location: NE PA
Status: Offline
Points: 6438
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 11:33 |
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Easy - the cheerful banter and plethora of reviews that have introduced me to prog groups I never knew existed!
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin
Joined: January 22 2009
Location: Magic Theatre
Status: Offline
Points: 23098
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 10:28 |
HolyMoly wrote:
I appreciate the fact that pretty much everyone here, regardless of political beliefs, age, or demographic, seems to feel and act like an individual with a skeptical eye towards mainstream thought. On most other boards I've been on, there's a tendency for conformity and not questioning things. In my experience here, everyone seems to have a sound mind of their own, as well as a mutual respect for each others' individuality. I think that's what I like the best, and it's probably a trait of progressive rock types in general, and probably why I was attracted to the music in the first place. |
I agree with you Steve, even if one of my favourite posters doesn't 
The point John made about Jim's avatars is also quite valid...
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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Earthmover
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 03 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 1509
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 09:54 |
jude111 wrote:
mister nobody wrote:
I love the community. |
It's hard to reconcile those words with your Bernard Black avatar, |
No, I REALLY do. Come on, it's awesome.
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TODDLER
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: August 28 2009
Location: Vineland, N.J.
Status: Offline
Points: 3126
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 07:56 |
CPicard wrote:
TODDLER wrote:
I like the member's fighting each other. That's much more dubious claiming than doing actual research. People can dig very deep in the skin of the adversary on this website. There is also style to their insults and personal attacks and that's a plus. When members disagree during on subject matter such as DT vs. Genesis vs. Lady Gaga or Neo-Prog vs. Hip-Hop vs. R.I.O. , I usually leave progarchives, wait for the storm to stop, return to progarchives, and compare/observe damages and casualties. You can learn from actual members who have a brain and as a result obtain vast disillusion about prog. |
Fixed.
Also, this is what I believe about PA. 
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Good! Now I can stop being a TODDLER and express my true colors. I come here to laugh at Jon Anderson's cosmic seasoned witch garbage.
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TODDLER
Forum Senior Member
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Joined: August 28 2009
Location: Vineland, N.J.
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 07:49 |
HolyMoly wrote:
I appreciate the fact that pretty much everyone here, regardless of political beliefs, age, or demographic, seems to feel and act like an individual with a skeptical eye towards mainstream thought. On most other boards I've been on, there's a tendency for conformity and not questioning things. In my experience here, everyone seems to have a sound mind of their own, as well as a mutual respect for each others' individuality. I think that's what I like the best, and it's probably a trait of progressive rock types in general, and probably why I was attracted to the music in the first place. |
Really? A mutual respect? I find that difficult to believe
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chopper
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Essex, UK
Status: Online
Points: 19942
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 07:36 |
The best thing - finding new friends and discovering Tinyfish.
Second best thing - discovering other new bands e.g Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Big Big Train, Transatlantic, Spocks Beard and many others.
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LinusW
Special Collaborator
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Joined: September 27 2007
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 10665
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 07:22 |
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The music, of course, but primarily the people who dig it up and recommend stuff you'd never have thought to explore yourself. The site has expanded my taste in music almost uncontrollably throughout the years.
Enjoying this in a (mostly) friendly, relaxed and fun atmosphere has been and continue to be a treat. That's why I keep coming back, even if I don't contribute as much as I used to.
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dysoriented
Forum Groupie
Joined: February 24 2013
Location: BLIGHTY!
Status: Offline
Points: 56
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 07:06 |
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I'm a lurker, I'm more read and respond, I haven't started any threads. But I too have picked up on a lot of older music well before my time just from reading other people's opinions on this website! I'm not very old and all my friends are into all this 'hip' and 'now' drum and bass, dubstep, or 'emo' style, and I really don't fit in. But I feel I fit in on here.
Furthermore if I need to know anything about music, PA is my encyclopedia!
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 10 2010
Location: Barcelona Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 5091
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 06:16 |
I admit being a bit selfish since what I like the most is the vast amount of knowledge available for free, from which I shamelessly profit much more than what I contribute.
Having said that, it's also nice to participate in the forum with you ladies and guys, and if anybody can benefit from any of my input, all the better!
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zeqexes
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 19 2012
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 1238
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 04:32 |
Ajay wrote:
I like the sense of being understood in my musical tastes. I just don't have these conversations outside this forum. Offline, if I mention Marillion or Transatlantic or Glass Hammer (to name but a few), people go, "Who?" Here, it's, "Yeah, they're great, have you heard their last album?" Priceless.
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This. Also, the sense of community is great 
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rdtprog
Special Collaborator
Heavy, RPI, Symph, JR/F Canterbury Teams
Joined: April 04 2009
Location: Mtl, QC
Status: Offline
Points: 5129
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Posted: March 12 2013 at 04:04 |
I found on PA that virtual connections could be more real than those i have with my real friends....
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Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness.
Emile M. Cioran
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