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TODDLER
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 10:30 |
IT IS WHAT IT IS....Isn't that a cocky excuse for not changing or moving on? I love how people say it too. It always comes across in such a way that losers shrug their shoulders and sigh. How about this one....Wherever you are, there you are. in otherwords..don't do something, just stand there.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 10:59 |
I first heard "it is what it is" from a boss of mine about 8 years ago. We'd screwed something up and I was worried the client would get mad. "Oh well, it is what it is," he said, and I thought, "oh. Well rhat's okay then." It was a very convenient philosophy, even better than "don't worry, be happy" because it didn't even require the effort to be happy. Little did I suspect that the phrase would come into such popular use, like "whatever" and "get over it" (which even inspired an Eagles song!)
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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 11:14 |
TODDLER wrote:
IT IS WHAT IT IS....Isn't that a cocky excuse for not changing or moving on? I love how people say it too. It always comes across in such a way that losers shrug their shoulders and sigh. How about this one....Wherever you are, there you are. in otherwords..don't do something, just stand there. |
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TODDLER
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 11:44 |
HolyMoly wrote:
I first heard "it is what it is" from a boss of mine about 8 years ago. We'd screwed something up and I was worried the client would get mad. "Oh well, it is what it is," he said, and I thought, "oh. Well rhat's okay then." It was a very convenient philosophy, even better than "don't worry, be happy" because it didn't even require the effort to be happy. Little did I suspect that the phrase would come into such popular use, like "whatever" and "get over it" (which even inspired an Eagles song!) |
But many times it's used as a powerful physical line of words to make people relax about something in life which is horrific. Like for example...my friend's marriage is on a downslide because his wife cheats regularly. He is very down about it and those stupied words come out of his mouth.."It is what it is"...really? You're not gonna change that? You're not going to move on? So when the phrase is used in that way..I find it to be a pat on the back or someone kidding themselves. So that's where I'm going. People tend to use the saying to continue swimming in the mud which is a poor excuse to continue living and pretending life is fine as you paste a stupied phony smile on your face and allow everyone to screw you.
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Dean
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 13:41 |
^ People need an excuse for not accepting responsibility. We live in a blame-culture and everyone needs someone else to blame because nothing is ever their fault, if we can say "It is what it is" then we can side-step the issue and avoid the witch-hunt. Sometimes you've got to look people in the eye and ask if it really is what it is.
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TODDLER
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 16:36 |
Dean wrote:
^ People need an excuse for not accepting responsibility. We live in a blame-culture and everyone needs someone else to blame because nothing is ever their fault, if we can say "It is what it is" then we can side-step the issue and avoid the witch-hunt. Sometimes you've got to look people in the eye and ask if it really is what it is. |
Thanks!
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Ajay
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 17:19 |
TODDLER wrote:
When I first joined there were a few members who disliked King Crimson... | BURN THE HERETICS!!!If that's alright with the rest of you...
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sorcerer kermes
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 17:23 |
a place that you are sure it belongs just to Prog music
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 17:24 |
I'm here since the site was officially 2 months old (almost 9 years). I have to like almost everything to stay.
Iván
PS: I dislike King Crimson (Except ITCOTCK)
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - March 13 2013 at 17:25
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richardh
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 17:54 |
It beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick
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The Doctor
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 18:02 |
Not necessarily, Richard. You should try hanging out in the political threads. There are times I spent there when I was longing for a sharp stick in the eye.
Edited by The Doctor - March 13 2013 at 18:02
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Tapfret
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 19:51 |
I would like to nominate "Poke in the Eye with a Sharp Stick" for Crossover. Its an insult that its still only prog-related.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 20:16 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
I'm here since the site was officially 2 months old (almost 9 years).
I have to like almost everything to stay.
Iván
PS: I dislike King Crimson (Except ITCOTCK)
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Horizons
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 20:20 |
King Crimson is best classic prog band.
I like reading the reviews and opinions in general. Though we all know we can't agree with them all.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 20:21 |
^^ Horizons, I'm sorry but you're opinion is not shared by everyone
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Horizons
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 20:23 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
^^ Horizons, I'm sorry but you're opinion is not shared by everyone
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Shall we dance to this tune again? :3
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 20:24 |
Horizons wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
^^ Horizons, I'm sorry but you're opinion is not shared by everyone
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Shall we dance to this tune again? :3 |
No, we shall not ? <3 I have already given you my opinion of the band
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Ajay
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 20:27 |
Steven Wilson's remix of Poke in the Eye with a Sharp Stick will be released later this year for a 40th anniversary edition. Steve promises it'll be a clearer Poke.
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geneyesontle
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 20:29 |
Talking to the best people in the world. The funniest, and the less consevative. Also, sharing my passion to prog rock.
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle
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TODDLER
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Posted: March 13 2013 at 21:01 |
Ajay wrote:
TODDLER wrote:
When I first joined there were a few members who disliked King Crimson... |
BURN THE HERETICS!!!
If that's alright with the rest of you...
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I think not they take over our operation
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