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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

PtS has an overcompressed quality to it that some people like because it sounds more like what they would get in mainstream pop and rock music.  I don't think Toby wants that kind of sound with the compositions Kayo Dot has been doing

Never felt that in regards to both the digital and the vinyl sound.
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Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:


Originally posted by jeffyp jeffyp wrote:


Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

PtS has an overcompressed quality to it that some people like because it sounds more like what they would get in mainstream pop and rock music.  I don't think Toby wants that kind of sound with the compositions Kayo Dot has been doing

I dont understand what you mean that PTS is over compressed. It doesnt seem compressed compared to alot of music.
On the dynamic range database its got a pretty good rating, you won't find that many albums above 12: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=maudlin+of+the+well&search_album=
You can have great dynamics and still be massively over compressed.I see what Triceratopsoil means, though I wouldn't say "over" compressed. Kayo Dot will always have a much more raw sound, it fits them better.


...I actually think Triceratopsoil meant audio, not data compression. PTS was offered in Lossless FLAC. And as far as audio compression goes, yes, it is much more dynamic than most records. So I'm not sure what he meant.
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Of course it's data compressed, it would have been dozens of gigabytes in size otherwise.
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Ok so then i'm pretty sure PTS is not really that compressed in either way, audio data compression or dynamic range compression.
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I don't understand, what does compressed even mean?
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Originally posted by jeffyp jeffyp wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

PtS has an overcompressed quality to it that some people like because it sounds more like what they would get in mainstream pop and rock music.  I don't think Toby wants that kind of sound with the compositions Kayo Dot has been doing
I dont understand what you mean that PTS is over compressed. It doesnt seem compressed compared to alot of music.

On the dynamic range database its got a pretty good rating, you won't find that many albums above 12: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=maudlin+of+the+well&search_album=

You can have great dynamics and still be massively over compressed.

I see what Triceratopsoil means, though I wouldn't say "over" compressed. Kayo Dot will always have a much more raw sound, it fits them better.
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

PtS has an overcompressed quality to it that some people like because it sounds more like what they would get in mainstream pop and rock music.  I don't think Toby wants that kind of sound with the compositions Kayo Dot has been doing
I dont understand what you mean that PTS is over compressed. It doesnt seem compressed compared to alot of music.

On the dynamic range database its got a pretty good rating, you won't find that many albums above 12: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=maudlin+of+the+well&search_album=
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Originally posted by jeffyp jeffyp wrote:

But alas, they are mastered.

No, I believe the first song they released was stated as unmastered, don't know about Thief though.

The sound quality is already much better than on Gamma Knife and at this point it would be hard to compare with Part the Second, but they probably had more money to record PtS as, if I remember correctly, someone donated several thousand dollars towards it's production.

Yeah that's my one big gripe with Gamma Knife.
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PtS has an overcompressed quality to it that some people like because it sounds more like what they would get in mainstream pop and rock music.  I don't think Toby wants that kind of sound with the compositions Kayo Dot has been doing
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Originally posted by jeffyp jeffyp wrote:

But alas, they are mastered.

No, I believe the first song they released was stated as unmastered, don't know about Thief though.

The sound quality is already much better than on Gamma Knife and at this point it would be hard to compare with Part the Second, but they probably had more money to record PtS as, if I remember correctly, someone donated several thousand dollars towards it's production.
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Is the t-shirt just the album art?

Idk :(


Doesn't matter since I only ordered the digital album.  Shipping to Canada added 9$

That suuuuucks. 

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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Is the t-shirt just the album art?

Idk :(


Doesn't matter since I only ordered the digital album.  Shipping to Canada added 9$
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I'd wait until the official release before passing judgment on sound quality.
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But alas, they are mastered.
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they're also unmastered i believe
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Originally posted by jeffyp jeffyp wrote:

Is it just me or is the audio quality on the two tracks, especially the most recent one, not as good as say, Part the Second?


Well they're just being streamed. 
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Is the t-shirt just the album art?

Idk :(
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Is the t-shirt just the album art?
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Is it just me or is the audio quality on the two tracks, especially the most recent one, not as good as say, Part the Second?
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