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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: August 20 2013 at 18:24 |
PtS has an overcompressed quality to it that some people like because it sounds more like what they would get in mainstream pop and rock music. I don't think Toby wants that kind of sound with the compositions Kayo Dot has been doing
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Padraic
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Posted: August 21 2013 at 10:46 |
sleeper wrote:
jeffyp wrote:
But alas, they are mastered. |
No, I believe the first song they released was stated as unmastered, don't know about Thief though.
The sound quality is already much better than on Gamma Knife and at this point it would be hard to compare with Part the Second, but they probably had more money to record PtS as, if I remember correctly, someone donated several thousand dollars towards it's production.
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Yeah that's my one big gripe with Gamma Knife.
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jeffyp
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Posted: August 21 2013 at 21:47 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
PtS has an overcompressed quality to it that some people like because it sounds more like what they would get in mainstream pop and rock music. I don't think Toby wants that kind of sound with the compositions Kayo Dot has been doing
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I dont understand what you mean that PTS is over compressed. It doesnt seem compressed compared to alot of music.
On the dynamic range database its got a pretty good rating, you won't find that many albums above 12: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=maudlin+of+the+well&search_album=
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sleeper
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Posted: August 22 2013 at 07:22 |
jeffyp wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
PtS has an overcompressed quality to it that some people like because it sounds more like what they would get in mainstream pop and rock music. I don't think Toby wants that kind of sound with the compositions Kayo Dot has been doing
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I dont understand what you mean that PTS is over compressed. It doesnt seem compressed compared to alot of music.
On the dynamic range database its got a pretty good rating, you won't find that many albums above 12: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=maudlin+of+the+well&search_album= |
You can have great dynamics and still be massively over compressed. I see what Triceratopsoil means, though I wouldn't say "over" compressed. Kayo Dot will always have a much more raw sound, it fits them better.
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jeffyp
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Posted: August 22 2013 at 13:13 |
I don't understand, what does compressed even mean?
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sleeper
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Posted: August 22 2013 at 14:28 |
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jeffyp
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Posted: August 22 2013 at 23:11 |
Ok so then i'm pretty sure PTS is not really that compressed in either way, audio data compression or dynamic range compression.
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sleeper
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Posted: August 23 2013 at 05:41 |
Of course it's data compressed, it would have been dozens of gigabytes in size otherwise.
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pianoman
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Posted: August 23 2013 at 13:09 |
sleeper wrote:
jeffyp wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
PtS has an overcompressed quality to it that some people like because it sounds more like what they would get in mainstream pop and rock music. I don't think Toby wants that kind of sound with the compositions Kayo Dot has been doing |
I dont understand what you mean that PTS is over compressed. It doesnt seem compressed compared to alot of music. On the dynamic range database its got a pretty good rating, you won't find that many albums above 12: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=maudlin+of+the+well&search_album= | You can have great dynamics and still be massively over compressed.I see what Triceratopsoil means, though I wouldn't say "over" compressed. Kayo Dot will always have a much more raw sound, it fits them better. | ...I actually think Triceratopsoil meant audio, not data compression. PTS was offered in Lossless FLAC. And as far as audio compression goes, yes, it is much more dynamic than most records. So I'm not sure what he meant.
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: August 23 2013 at 14:33 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
PtS has an overcompressed quality to it that some people like because it sounds more like what they would get in mainstream pop and rock music. I don't think Toby wants that kind of sound with the compositions Kayo Dot has been doing
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Never felt that in regards to both the digital and the vinyl sound.
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jeffyp
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Posted: August 23 2013 at 15:26 |
So i'm saying I wish this record had PTS quality production and maybe it will on release if they do some more mastering things, we shall see.
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: August 27 2013 at 15:01 |
Pre-orders are closing this Friday, when the album is released on bandcamp. Get on it!
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: August 28 2013 at 09:18 |
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HolyMoly
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Posted: August 28 2013 at 15:41 |
Tour dates! Emphasis added on the Atlanta date because I am so there. That venue is a converted barn, modified for maximum hipster appeal. I saw Ariel Pink there last year. It's gonna be soooo cool.
---------------------------------- We are planning on touring this music as much as possible, beginning
with a leg down the Southeast US (and yes, including Florida!) for a
couple weeks from November 8-23.
Here are the dates, with more in Florida to be confirmed soon:
Sept 6, Brooklyn NY @ The Bell House with Sal Mineo (Eugene Robinson of Oxbow and Jamie Stewart of Xiu Xiu)
Sept 14, New York NY @ Bowery Electric with Ahleuchatistas and Psalm Zero
Nov 8, Baltimore MD @ The Wind-up Space
Nov 9, Asheville NC - TBC
Nov 10, Nashville TN @ The End (subject to change)
Nov 11, Little Rock, AR - TBC
Nov 12, Hattiesburg, MS @ The Tavern
Nov 13, New Orleans, LA @ Big Top
Nov 14, 15 - Florida TBC
Nov 16, Miami, FL @ Churchill's
Nov 17 - Florida TBC
Nov 18 - Atlanta, GA @ Goat Farm Arts
Nov 19 - West Columbia, SC @ Conundrum
Nov 20 - Greenville NC - TBC
Nov 21 - Richmond, VA @ Gallery 5
Nov 22 - Brooklyn, NY at 285 Kent with Vaura and Psalm Zero
Nov 23 - Philadelphia, PA @ The Khyber Upstairs with Vaura and Cleric
Edited by HolyMoly - August 28 2013 at 15:42
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rushfan4
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Posted: August 28 2013 at 15:47 |
Sounds like a perfect venue for Rare Goat to be the opening act.
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Earendil
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Posted: August 28 2013 at 15:51 |
I'm hoping for a Chicago date, but it would definitely be worth the 8 hour drive if necessary...
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Padraic
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Posted: August 28 2013 at 15:54 |
Philly - f yeah!
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HolyMoly
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Posted: August 28 2013 at 17:04 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Sounds like a perfect venue for Rare Goat to be the opening act.
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Say, there's an idea. We could really make Kayo Dot look good.
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Posted: August 28 2013 at 17:45 |
Florida seeing some attention woo, though not sure what TBC means.
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: August 28 2013 at 19:25 |
To be confirmed?
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