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    Posted: March 15 2013 at 11:34
Looking through my collection, I noticed that most of the best prog and jazz/fusion albums came out in odd-numbered years. That's not to say that great albums didn't come out in even-numbered years, but there is a substantial difference. This is especially apparent in modern prog, years like 2005, 2007, 2009, and 2011 seem to have a lot of great albums released by various bands and artists, much more than the even numbered years. 2013 seems to be heading that way too.
Anyone else notice this and can comment?
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Funny you should mention that, I've actually thought the exact same thing. I had been looking through my albums from the 70s and 71, 73, 75, 77 and 79 all seem a little more fruitful than the years going up to em. Coincidence yes, but it's still pretty uncanny.
Latter years I'm not that sure, but 11 beats 12 imo.


Edited by Guldbamsen - March 15 2013 at 11:40
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This applies for my music library. Nice find. Clap
(I'm expecting a lot from this year, now, though. LOL)
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1972, anyone?
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1972 figures stron in the PA top ablums chart

Would agree that with the exception of '72, the odd years tend to figure more in my collection ( oh I forgot about last year Confused)
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Even numbered:
  • Close To The Edge
  • Relayer
  • Thick As A Brick
  • Heavy Horses
  • Trespass
  • Foxtrot
  • Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
  • Trick Of The Tail
  • H To He Who Am The Only One
  • Least We Can DO Is Wave To Each Other
  • Still Life
  • Red
  • Lizard
  • Octopus
  • You
  • Crime Of The Century
  • Demons And Wizards
  • 2112
  • Hemispheres
  • Permanent Waves
  • Moon Madness
  • Mirage
  • Spirit Of Eden
  • Per Un Amico
  • Ys
  • Storia Di Un Minuto
  • L'isola di neinte
  • Darwin!
  • Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso
  • Operation Mindcrime
  • Space Shanty
  • Soft Machine 1 & III
  • Leftoverture
  • Peter Gabriel 3
  • Phaedra
  • In The Region Of The Summer Stars
  • Red Queen To Gryphon Three
  • Emerson, Lake and Palmer
  • Trillogy
  • Moving Waves
  • Saucerful Of Secrets
  • Atom Heart Mother
  • Utopia
Ermm bang goes that theory.
 
 


Edited by Dean - March 15 2013 at 12:53


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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Even numbered:



  • Close To The Edge
  • Relayer
  • Thick As A Brick
  • Heavy Horses
  • Trespass
  • Foxtrot
  • Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
  • Trick Of The Tail
  • H To He Who Am The Only One
  • Least We Can DO Is Wave To Each Other
  • Still Life
  • Red
  • Lizard
  • Octopus
  • You
  • Crime Of The Century
  • Demons And Wizards
  • 2112
  • Hemispheres
  • Permanent Waves
  • Moon Madness
  • Mirage
  • Spirit Of Eden
  • Per Un Amico
  • Ys
  • Storia Di Un Minuto
  • L'isola di neinte
  • Darwin!
  • Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso
  • Operation Mindcrime
  • Space Shanty
  • Soft Machine 1 & III
  • Leftoverture
  • Peter Gabriel 3
  • Phaedra
  • In The Region Of The Summer Stars
  • Red Queen To Gryphon Three
  • Emerson, Lake and Palmer
  • Trillogy
  • Moving Waves
  • Saucerful Of Secrets
  • Atom Heart Mother
  • Utopia

Ermm bang goes that theory.

 

 

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I think most would agree that years beginning with 1 , 9, and 7 were the best . Wink
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Years beginning with 9 and 7 would then be before the crusades?TongueClown
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Even numbered:
  • Close To The Edge
  • Relayer
  • Thick As A Brick
  • Heavy Horses
  • Trespass
  • Foxtrot
  • Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
  • Trick Of The Tail
  • H To He Who Am The Only One
  • Least We Can DO Is Wave To Each Other
  • Still Life
  • Red
  • Lizard
  • Octopus
  • You
  • Crime Of The Century
  • Demons And Wizards
  • 2112
  • Hemispheres
  • Permanent Waves
  • Moon Madness
  • Mirage
  • Spirit Of Eden
  • Per Un Amico
  • Ys
  • Storia Di Un Minuto
  • L'isola di neinte
  • Darwin!
  • Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso
  • Operation Mindcrime
  • Space Shanty
  • Soft Machine 1 & III
  • Leftoverture
  • Peter Gabriel 3
  • Phaedra
  • In The Region Of The Summer Stars
  • Red Queen To Gryphon Three
  • Emerson, Lake and Palmer
  • Trillogy
  • Moving Waves
  • Saucerful Of Secrets
  • Atom Heart Mother
  • Utopia
Ermm bang goes that theory.
 
 


First off, that's only 70s albums there have been many years that decade ended. Do another list and include odd-numbered albums, and we'll compare.

But also:
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

That's not to say that great albums didn't come out in even-numbered years

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The Crusades.... man those were the days....
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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

The Crusades.... man those were the days....


I hear volley ball was quite hip back in those days, and as anybody who knows anything'll tell you, then volley ball was a overt gesture towards the making of prog rock(the ball was at the time made out of granite, which makes it one of the first controlled flying rocks - ie prog rock). 
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First off, that's only 70s albums there have been many years that decade ended. Do another list and include odd-numbered albums, and we'll compare.

I could, and so could you. But there is no reason to do that - the point I was making, (and I think it is made sufficiently as to not require any further examples), is that there is no odd-even correlation at all. And if it doesn't work for the 70s then why bother with the other decades?
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:


But also:
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

That's not to say that great albums didn't come out in even-numbered years

And when there is an acceptably balance between even and odd year-numbers in the Top albums then it is safe to assume that if we measure good years by the number of great albums then, again, there is no odd-even correlation at all.
 
When there is not logical explanation why there should be a correlation then any perceived correlation will be in question.


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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

 
I hear volley ball was quite hip back in those days, and as anybody who knows anything'll tell you, then volley ball was a overt gesture towards the making of prog rock(the ball was at the time made out of granite, which makes it one of the first controlled flying rocks - ie prog rock). 
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A truly accurate statement concerning the nature of statistics!  I often find myself split between the odd and even numbers of almost everything.
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I still enjoy 2010 (by going with ratings I'd give out and number of albums vying for my top 10 of the year) the most since I've been paying attention to music for such things (roughly around 07/08).


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I would agree with this theory, at least in the 21st century. 05, 07, 09, and 11 were great years for prog albums, IMO. 
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The Mantle isn't even #1 for 2002.
 
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

First off, that's only 70s albums there have been many years that decade ended. Do another list and include odd-numbered albums, and we'll compare.


I could, and so could you. But there is no reason to do that - the point I was making, (and I think it is made sufficiently as to not require any further examples), is that there is no odd-even correlation at all. And if it doesn't work for the 70s then why bother with the other decades?

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

But also:
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

That's not to say that great albums didn't come out in even-numbered years

And when there is an acceptably balance between even and odd year-numbers in the Top albums then it is safe to assume that if we measure good years by the number of great albums then, again, there is no odd-even correlation at all.

 

When there is not logical explanation why there should be a correlation then any perceived correlation will be in question.

Dean's right. If there were anything to it, why would it not apply equally to the 70s? It sounds perhaps like a streak. Even if there were a genuine imbalance, streaks happen. If they didn't no one would get excited about gambling. But I'm not convinced there's any skewing at all, because there's no method of arriving at inter-rater reliability. What gets counted or not counted is simply subjective.

Edited by HackettFan - March 15 2013 at 20:06
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