Jack O' The Clock (U.S.) for RIO/Avant

I'll agree some of the stuff is more chambery experimental than folk, but most has some sort of lineage to folk, and they certainly seem to be attracting attention in prog circles and being compared to mostly prog acts.  I'm not clear on why they should need to have been around since the 60s to be prog folk.  We folkies are an old bunch but we can still get in board with new stuff.  So I voted yes and am waiting for Clem's input.

well, i love revolution and democracy, so YES im not accepting a NO that simple. and i think thats a good thing.
Specially if there is a heavy talk about the categorization on PA and of what is prog in general.
i dont try to decide or dictate sth, its just a discussion.
And im always happy if someone does not ignore the whishes (even if they seem stupid in the eyes of others) of the people. So minimum thanks for talking ...

So imho its hard to define classic prog and i would not say that you cant find any elemnts of it in Jack O.
The other question is, how much classic prog rock must be in there?
In case of PA i think too much.
And another radical question would be, can PROG be classic??

i totally accept that this is a private and mostly undemocratic db, so in the end its the choice of the admins and co.
Its just so sad that prog is limiting itself, or gets limited by some critics.
Even if the bands calling themselves prog rock.

their tags on reverbnations are clear
Folk / Progressive Rock / Experimental

they tag themselves on bandcamp with
avant rock experimental avant-folk avant-prog chamber folk chamber pop experimental prog rock in opposition singer-songwriter Oakland

Babyblaue sites categorize them as
Folk; RetroProg; RIO / Avant; Worldmusic / Ethno

its on here
http://newprogreleases.blogspot.de/2013/03/jack-o-clock-all-my-friends.html

and here
http://progulator.com/reviews/jack-othe-clock-all-my-friends/


so i dont want to be rude too, but sometimes you just have to fight for your right, chances and new possibilitys!
For progress!!!
this (ALL MY FRIENDS) is so so prog!
and if mostly everybody believes it, its a question worth why the system isnt able to integrate them at the moment!?

of course you can argue that there is more X then rock. So maybe we could classify them as a progressive folk outfit. but then there is again symphonic elements, electronic elements and rock elements. So this is also not fitting.
you can add them to RIO/avant without problems, but i think that is also not the whole thing of Jack O.
Therefor they have to much folk, symphonic and rock structures in there.
And sorry, what do i get when i take rock, folk, symphonic and experimental stuff together?
i thought thats kind of classic rock?

sorry for the sarcasm, but it seems so obvious for me.

anyway, for the systems stability and for the fortune/misfortune of the band, we can wait until the next release.
but i think we, the usual folks, should be more open, flexible and progressive, this really doesnt hurt.
Except the rock maybe ;)

Cool down and wait for Prog Folk Team's decision, wowie. 

DamoXt7942 wrote: Not so avant-prog as Thinguma*jigSaw. Not sure if they can be fit for Prog Folk.