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The Doctor
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Topic: Attack of the Clones Posted: March 17 2013 at 12:25 |
These are some of my favorite "clone" albums, where the music is so closely tied to the band in parentheses that it is almost a direct copy. And yes, I do like that Starcastle album. Which one is your favorite? If I've missed one you like better, tell me what it is.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Hercules
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
Posted: March 17 2013 at 12:35 |
Treason is my favourite of these (though it's the worst Gryphon album), but if you think it was in any way a clone of Yes, you are completely mistaken.
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The Doctor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
Posted: March 17 2013 at 12:37 |
Funny, I expected someone to say that about Unfolded Like Staircase, not Treason. For me, it does indeed sound like a Yes clone, but of course, that doesn't mean you have to hear the same things I hear.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 12938 |
Posted: March 17 2013 at 13:16 |
I've only heard four of the ten but i really like those four a lot. Discipline, The Watch, Tiles and Wobbler. Gotta go with Wobbler although i really love that Tiles album.
Edited by Mellotron Storm - March 17 2013 at 13:17 |
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octopus-4
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 13:28 |
Bellaphon are a great Camel clone (the only real Camel clone that I know)
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Wanorak
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 13:40 |
Discipline for me; a great album. In no way do I consider Gryphon a Yes clone; a very different band IMO.
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The Doctor
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 13:41 |
Gryphon is not a Yes clone, but that album is. Their other four albums are very much not Yes clones.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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b_olariu
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 14:05 |
Tiles - Fence the Clear is an excellent album and Tiles is among my fav bands
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Lima96
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 15:11 |
Other: Citizen Cain - Somewhere but Yesterday (Genesis clone).
Seriously, these guys are the most simmilar thing to Genesis I ever came across. Even the singer sings exactly like Peter Gabriel.
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jude111
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 15:16 |
As far as Genesis clones go, my two favorite tracks are Rael's Momo (from their Mascuras Urbanas album), and The Watch's Shining Bald Heads, from their 2000 album Vacuum. Momo sounds like a lost masterpiece from Selling England by the Pound - and it's better than that album's weaker tracks (Epping Forest, More Fool Me). The Watch's track sounds perhaps a bit too modern to really be Genesis, but it's a great track - think Big Big Train at their best.
Think Floyd's track Hope (I think from their album of the same name) sounds like Waters (I mean, it *really does*!!) singing a Division Bell-era track (production-wise; composition-wise, it's a dead-ringer in Waters' inimitable style) - only it's better than anything on that album, barring High Hopes. Oh, and it's better than anything on The Final Cut, Pros and Cons, Radio Kaos, and Amused. (The rest of Think Floyd's album? Not so much. But enough to please Waters/Floyd fans.) I know they're not prog, but when I first heard Placebo on the radio, I swear I thought it was Rush, and that they finally went back to their guitar-based Moving Pictures days. Can't remember what track it was - Pure Morning probably. (In retrospect, it sounds more like Geddy Lee fronting the Smashing Pumpkins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQQmAP9Poo4) Momo (http://mp3juices.com/search/RAEL-Momo) and Hope (http://www.progarchives.com/mp3.asp?id=6018), two tracks that are even better than the real thing (almost).
Edited by jude111 - March 17 2013 at 16:02 |
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someone_else
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 15:18 |
VdGG with a cloud of milk and a cube of sugar, please...
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 15:19 |
I'm going with Starcastle because I did not know VDGG was a clone. If fact I really don't know VDGG... And before I get jumped on by some fans, I bet there is prog stuff out there that I know which you don't Neener neener neener.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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The Doctor
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 15:25 |
No, no, no. Discipline is a VDGG clone or at least their album Unfolded Like Staircase was. VDGG is not a clone band.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 15:38 |
This is a good other vote. But I'll go with ULS even though I wouldn't go as far as to call it a VDGG clone. |
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presdoug
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 15:56 |
I will go with the Starcastle debut, though i don't really feel it's clone material. Starcastle show some refreshing creativity of their own on that album.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 18:09 |
Picking Discipline but I don't see it as a VDGG clone at all.
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Ian
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Dr. Occulator
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 04 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 627 |
Posted: March 17 2013 at 18:19 |
I'll go with Starcastle because I think they were very much a Yes clone band. Many others I don't know but I will say that Gryphon and Glass Hammer are not clone bands in that I believe they have earned their own distinct identity.
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twosteves
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 20:33 |
Hate clone bands--what's the point? Artistically , I think cover bands have more credibility---really hate Starcastle, doesn't sound like Yes to me ---
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cstack3
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 23:54 |
I'll go with Starcastle, as I knew the band....they didn't intend to "sound" like Yes, but like Glass Hammer and a few others, wanted to use that characteristic sound (high tenor vocal harmonies, driving Rick bass, intricate guitar etc.) and make an American equivalent.
They succeeded on some level, especially their debut album. They were all the rage in Champaign, IL which launched its share of music (REO Speedwagon dominated the AOR airwaves stateside, and Fripp/King Crimson resided in Champaign for a while). I don't know several of the others, it is a good shopping list! If you haven't heard Glass Hammer's new "Perilous," check it out, Jon Davison IS the vocalist for Yes! If they share vocalists, are they a clone??
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DisgruntledPorcupine
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
Posted: March 18 2013 at 00:15 |
Oh dear, that's uncanny... |
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