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Bob Siebenberg vs Phil Collins (drummer poll)

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    Posted: March 19 2013 at 04:50
these are drummers that got included in both bands third album and also become fundamental to each bands groove and drive, Bob Siebenberg with his steady but playfull style and Phil with his vulcanic yet icy aproach on the kit, warm yet temperate, Bob is a very creative drummer, one of the most creative drummers in rock IMO, very innovative, playfull groovs, fills and sound.

Phil probably prooved more that he could swing a 9/8 in Genesis then Bob could in Supertramp who rearly played anything other then 4/4 and 6/8, but i can't hear Phil give the same steady yet droning  beat to Crime of the Century (title track) as Bob could or the varied grooves in Hide in Your Shell.

both drummers are unique for their style and sound and emediatly recogniceable,


Edited by aginor - March 19 2013 at 04:52
you know Procol Harum created their own nieche in prog in the 70s like theyr own symph prog sound which they molded to their own IMO, quote Aginor
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For me there is no doubt: mr. Collins.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tamijo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2013 at 05:43
I think Phil would prob have sounded amasing on Crime of the Century  (all freaking album)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2013 at 06:42
PhilCo by a long-shot.  I have most Supertramp on cassette, but I cherish my vinyl of their amazing debut. I never found C Benberg's drumming to have much personality - kind of generic to me........
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Bob Siebenberg !


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Collins, no question
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Collins by a wide margin!!! Siebenberg was always steady, but uninspired IMO.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2013 at 15:04
Phil Collins, easily...
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Bob Siebenberg would readily admit Collins as the superior drummer.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote progmatic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2013 at 20:42
Collins it must be. His work in Genesis before fronting the group is unreal and if you really want to hear some drumming, check out Brand X's "Unorthodox Behavior!"
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Post Options Post Options   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2013 at 20:44
Collins is one of the best drummers in prog---can't confuse his corny love songs with his drumming.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote geneyesontle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2013 at 20:48
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Oh, sh!t, everything the people above me said.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mormegil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2013 at 08:52
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The winner is obvious: Phillip :-)
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Phil's a great drummer. Bob not so much.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote aginor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2013 at 04:05
Bob is a ver y good drummer actualy, so you are 100% wrong by such inana statement
you know Procol Harum created their own nieche in prog in the 70s like theyr own symph prog sound which they molded to their own IMO, quote Aginor
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fox On The Rocks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2013 at 15:35
Originally posted by aginor

Bob is a ver y good drummer actualy, so you are 100% wrong by such inana statement

Well dude, I realize it's all subjective, and Supertramp's music didn't really require that much rhythmic prowess, but his drumming really wasn't that impressive - it just sounds so stale and lacks so much character. It's like he's keeping time more than anything.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2013 at 16:27
besides Genesis and Brand X-- Collins was asked by Zep to do the drumming at Live Aid or some benefit----thought he was okay---but no one plays like Bonham.
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