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    Posted: April 01 2013 at 10:47
Wow, that's two left-field surprises on this thread today. Wacko
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Dogged by Dogma is brilliant! One of those that seriously needs a reissue. I mean, from what I can gather then Canterbury albums are selling pretty good. one would think that a gem featuring both Stewart n Pyle would be of huge interest.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 11:26
That's what I say all the time, David. It is to the listener and the label together to decide what should be reissued.
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And the artist, of course.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 12:22
Yes, holy, all three. When I think about the next disc I want to buy,  I think of a disc that no longer exists or  is too expensive for me. Today, I wonder if it would possible to establish a system of pre order with a label, in a limited edition. For example 500 or 1000 copies that the the label would be sure to sell fully. Am I dreaming?
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That's a great question Pierre.  I have to wonder... if it were that easy, I'd think some labels would have been doing that already.  My best guess is that the up front costs of producing and mastering the music are big enough that a run of 500-1000 copies (or less) isn't enough to cover those costs, even if all of them are sold.  I don't know enough about how such things work though.  Anyone?
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But the soundtracks labels (Cometa, Dagored, GDM, Digit Movies ... etc.) do this all the time, whithout being sure to sell their 500 copies.
 
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I don't see why you couldn't work with a small label to do a Kickstarter - find out how much they need to do a limited run of a OOP album, and try to raise the funds.  The problem can often be finding out who has rights to what.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 12:46
Yes. Why not ? 
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Dogged By Dogma ???  Now you have me searching.............never heard of that one......
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Hi,
 
I'm in the mood for some "Fictitious Sports".
 
Kinda getting tired of tired Canterbury stuff now ... something different would make it for me!
 
Violin
 
And if I get tired of Robert, I can always put on the stuff by Riuichi Sakamoto (the trio of CD's starting with Heartbeat)... just as much fun! Sorry Rolling Stones ... you have no talent, but we love you!
 
Cool
 
Maybe Carla Bley ... will be better ... listening!


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Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Dogged by Dogma is brilliant! One of those that seriously needs a reissue. I mean, from what I can gather then Canterbury albums are selling pretty good. one would think that a gem featuring both Stewart n Pyle would be of huge interest.


I'd definitely buy a copy.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2013 at 23:45
What is remarkable with this album is its modernity, or rather the fact that it does not really sound like an intruder in a time (1982) where progressive music sounded like something old and gone.
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Originally posted by HolyMoly

Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Speaking about Canterbury related acts - here's an unusual item :
'Neil's Heavy Concept Album' Big smile. From 1984.
As many of you know, Neil was the sadsack Hippie from the series 'The Young Ones'.  This album is by Nigel Planer (Neil), with main co-conspiritor Dave Stewart.  Other musicians involved are Pip Pyle, Barbara Gaskin, Jimmy Hastings, along with Bryson Graham (who was drummer in Patrick Moraz's band 'Mainhorse') AND Gavin Harrison !!  There are a few other lesser known names too.  We get cover-versions of such psych gems as Hole In My Shoe (Traffic), My White Bicycle (Tomorrow), The Gnome (Pink Floyd), Golf Girl (Caravan), Hurdy Gurdy Man (Donovan - Steve Hillage as well) and a section of The Amoeba Song (Incredible String Band).  Some of the original pieces which D.S. helped shape are also pretty cool, not to mention the Neil character, whose banter is just side-splitting.  Great album that slipped under the radar somewhat. 
Wait, WHAT?

I had no idea this existed.  Wow! Shocked

There were occasional prog references in The Young Ones.   One time, Neil gets a job as a policeman and has to bust up his friend's hippie party.  The song playing at the party when he enters is "Electrick Gypsies" by Steve Hillage.  He stops the music by beating his club on the record player, then realizing what he did, says regretfully, "Oh no.... Steve Hillage..."  In another episode, they're all watching TV and some musical group comes on, and Neil yells at the TV, "Boo! How about some Hawkwind or Marillion!"
Was it Electric Gypsies ??  I could've swore it was 'Getting In Tune' (off 'Open')..........man, it's been a long time........so, how about some Hawkwind or Marillion ??? LOL
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Found the clip on Youtube!


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I could've swore it was 'Getting In Tune' (off 'Open')...
Incidentally, I love that tune, and a few others off that album.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2013 at 13:23
Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Speaking about Canterbury related acts - here's an unusual item :
... and a section of The Amoeba Song (Incredible String Band).  Some of the original pieces which D.S. helped shape are also pretty cool, not to mention the Neil character, whose banter is just side-splitting.  Great album that slipped under the radar somewhat. 
 
I would be willing to suggest that the ISB pre-dated Dave Stewart ... though we might consider that he was just a kid at the time having fun!
 
But I would think that ISB is a really good group that can easily match up the "beat poet" attitude in so many artists associated with "Canterbury" ... which Robin Williamson has mentioned before as influences, although they were more because "they were there" than it was a meaningful artistic, musical or literary influence.
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Originally posted by HolyMoly

Found the clip on Youtube!

Open up, it's the pigs !!!!!! LOLLOLLOL
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