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tdfloyd 
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Posted: April 04 2013 at 22:46 |
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My way into prog was only from my brother who had PF's Dark Side of the Moon. He had a quad receiver and although he did not have a quad recording, the receiver simulated quad. I had never heard anything like it. I got into King Crimson after hearing In the Court of the Crimson King on the radio. I found Tangerine Dream when I asked a friend if he had anything like PF but without the vocals and he came back with Thief. Other groups were going thru friends record collections, some was reading magazines. A little bit of everything.
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 17:15 |
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Found the music I have grown to love browsing a store in Hillbrow (Johannesburg) called Hillbrow records. Also through friends who enjoyed the same kind of music that I did. I loved an old valve radio that my grandfather cast out and I used to tune into Radio Nederland late at night - they played a lot of my type of music there - especially on a Sunday Night at one time (I found Radio Nederland trawling the shortwave bands). This was in the very early 70's and my love for music sprang at an early age - around 12 years of age I was then. Since that time I've been a record / album collecting nutcase and I've gathered everything that I could lay my hands on for the past 40 years or so - mainly prog or what we call prog. I had a "lunatic" (I use that term very fondly) friend who hailed from the UK and who lived in South Africa who built his own synthesizer - he was kind of an electronic wunderkind - and he loved keyboard work, loved ELP, Colliseum, Rick Wakeman, etc. Through him I met Julian Laxton and Trevor Rabin during Rabin's time with Rabbitt (South African top rock band). My mother is an award winning classically trained pianist and she loved classical music (Liszt etc) and I suppose I inherited the gene from her right in the beginning although I've always kind of rebelled against the classical music thing in favor of prog rock music.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 16:30 |
Sux. I'm afraid to think of what other great prog footage they might have thrown away 
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 16:24 |
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^I contacted the host of "In Concert" at that time, Don E. Branker, and he said all the In Concert videos from that time were thrown out. I suppose someone watching it somewhere could have taped it on reel to reel, but i don't know for sure.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 16:16 |
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The complete Double Dimple??? That would have been amazing. Spartacus is great but I think I like Double Dimple more. I just had a look on youtube and unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be any Triumvirat concert videos from the Spartacus/Double Dimple years.
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 16:10 |
 The.Crimson.King wrote:
presdoug wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
In the 70's, I got into many prog bands from early FM radio. ELP's "Lucky Man", Tull's "Living in the Past", Yes' "Roundabout", Focus' "Hocus Pocus", Pink Floyd's "Time" & Procol Harum's "Conquistador" all regularly appeared on 70's FM radio.There were also 2 weekly late night music TV shows, Friday night was "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" on channel 4, Saturday night was "In Concert" on channel 7. "In Concert" was especially good and showed ELP's performance from the 1974 California Jam. After that, I made friends with other prog maniacs and we turned each other on to cool prog bands. |
Did you happen to see Triumvirat on "In Concert"? (January 1975) |
Triumvirat? That would've been so cool! Didn't see it, do you recall what they played? Perhaps the opening song of Spartacus? |
They played the complete music from Illusions On A Double Dimple-both suites. The concert was filmed during a night on their tour in the fall of 1974 supporting Fleetwood Mac. I'd give anything to be able to see that footage.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 16:05 |
presdoug wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
In the 70's, I got into many prog bands from early FM radio. ELP's "Lucky Man", Tull's "Living in the Past", Yes' "Roundabout", Focus' "Hocus Pocus", Pink Floyd's "Time" & Procol Harum's "Conquistador" all regularly appeared on 70's FM radio.There were also 2 weekly late night music TV shows, Friday night was "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" on channel 4, Saturday night was "In Concert" on channel 7. "In Concert" was especially good and showed ELP's performance from the 1974 California Jam. After that, I made friends with other prog maniacs and we turned each other on to cool prog bands. |
Did you happen to see Triumvirat on "In Concert"? (January 1975) |
Triumvirat? That would've been so cool! Didn't see it, do you recall what they played? Perhaps the opening song of Spartacus?
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 15:42 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
In the 70's, I got into many prog bands from early FM radio. ELP's "Lucky Man", Tull's "Living in the Past", Yes' "Roundabout", Focus' "Hocus Pocus", Pink Floyd's "Time" & Procol Harum's "Conquistador" all regularly appeared on 70's FM radio.There were also 2 weekly late night music TV shows, Friday night was "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" on channel 4, Saturday night was "In Concert" on channel 7. "In Concert" was especially good and showed ELP's performance from the 1974 California Jam. After that, I made friends with other prog maniacs and we turned each other on to cool prog bands. |
Did you happen to see Triumvirat on "In Concert"? (January 1975)
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 11:29 |
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Oh well I am obviously barking mad. I never heard Prog on mainstream radio. What else can I say? Just explaing why it is not unusual for his dad not to have heard of those bands. |
In Southern California we had a lot of things on mainstream radio ... in LA alone KMET and KLOS were famous and they became the subject in "Radio Kaos" ... Santa Barbara had Guy Guden ... San Francisco had a lot as well, and even the well known Michael Donohue was major in these things. However, of all these, other than KNAC in Los Angeles, and Guy in Santa Barbara, I am not aware that ANYONE, ever played anything that had lyrics and singing in a foreign language. Madison, WI (late 60's) did NOT have these, but I do not remember the FM station there (the first one in America btw going back to 1930's at the University!) and the pop radio DID play Suite Judy Blue Eyes, Light My Fire, Piece of My Heart, Have Another Hit, Purple Haze and such ... but the concept of longer cuts and better music was not a part of the radio I remember in Madison at all, but was in California. But the "English" scene was already a strong part of my listening ... so the additions in California, for me, was ... the rest of the world! PS: Don't make me play David Watts for Dean ... he will personally shoot down my Kinks record collection with a shotgun! So would Guy Guden for that matter, for insulting his dress-wear in those days!
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 10:50 |
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They came to me in a dream one night. |
Bologne ... he was too ripped to know the difference and the girl took his idea away! We didn't "dream" in those days ... we got stoned!
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 17:48 |
In the 70's, I got into many prog bands from early FM radio. ELP's "Lucky Man", Tull's "Living in the Past", Yes' "Roundabout", Focus' "Hocus Pocus", Pink Floyd's "Time" & Procol Harum's "Conquistador" all regularly appeared on 70's FM radio.
There were also 2 weekly late night music TV shows, Friday night was "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" on channel 4, Saturday night was "In Concert" on channel 7. "In Concert" was especially good and showed ELP's performance from the 1974 California Jam.
After that, I made friends with other prog maniacs and we turned each other on to cool prog bands.
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 02:13 |
Hanging around college bars. Also a very good book and lots of old 70s mags such as Rock, Creem, and Circus. i bought these for Kiss but learnt about lots of bands through a collection of these mags. I wish I still had them though as mum binned them when i left home.
still i heard of a lot of 70s rock this way and also watching Music Tv shows such as Countdown, Night Moves and Sounds Unlimited. Esp. Rock Arena that introduced me to The Residents, and Toyah. Grateful for that!
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 02:07 |
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I kind of started listening to Prog without knowing what I was listening was called Prog. Growing up in Namibia in the pre-internet era there was nothing that informed me of such a genre. I started buying records by bands called Pink Flyod, Yes, Marillion, ELP,etc. which where actually available there. Somehow I had heard of Pink Floyd and then got into the other stuff. Also being a metal fan I got my hands on Dream Theaterīs When Dream and Day Unite and I think thats when I read the term Prog Metal for the first time in some Metal Magazine. When I move to Germany in the 2000s I discoverd through the www at some stage that there are many bands out there that are similar to Yes or Marillion and thats when I got really into Prog. A lot of my money was in a matter of several weeks invested into mainly Genesis, Van der Graaf Generator, Spockīs Beard, Arena, Ayreon, Flower Kings, Triumvirat, IQ.
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Posted: March 31 2013 at 18:47 |
I started my prog journey with Genesis, Pink Floyd, Rush, ELP and Yes - through friends, in the mid-70's. That said, I don't really recall these bands being called "prog" back then.
I didn't get to hear any of the OP's listed bands until much later.
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Posted: March 31 2013 at 13:04 |
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PS: every schoolboy my age knew Flash because of the flash of knickers on the cover.  |
Warning: Off topic! I still have that on my wall! And above it ... of course, is Capability Brown's "Voice" with the zipped lips ... and above that? ... you got it ... "Quatermass" Always loved those three covers and the concept of putting them in order like that, just seemed right ... ! I liked the original Scorpions cover for their 3rd album, and of course, the original one from Be Bop Deluxe ... which you have to get the poster one ... because it's better than the album cover! I thought about Renate dressed as Marlene ... but that was one of my favorite women in the movies ... so that one was left behind! Now, if you want that picture of Connie Kreski! ... that's mine ... leave it alone! Ohh well, now I have let folks know what my small private room is all about! ... I call it ... music porn!
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Posted: March 31 2013 at 12:53 |
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I asked my father the other day if he had heard of some of the 70's prog acts I listen to. To name a few, King Crimson, Hawkwind, Gentle Giant, Caravan... And he said no. |
My guess is that the only things he knew and heard, was the stuff that was mostly played on the FM dial ... you forgot Pink Floyd, Who and YES and such ....which he has heard, and did not acknowledge ... play for him, Roundabout ... ohh yeah, I heard that! A lot of the stuff, in mid 70's became a darling thing in the California area I was, specially after the Rolling Stones, and Led Zeppelin ripped up 100 million dollars each ... and thousands of bands were dumped from most record companies ... which had helped the growth of the FM radio ... and right away, Texaco, and many other companies that owned the record companies, went out and bought the majority of all radio conglomerates around the country to support their product. All it tells me, is that your dad listened to an FM station or two and that was it ... he had other things to deal with and worry about ... a little babe like you maybe! ... and did not spend the time, or money in music. But many folks think that means it "was not there" ... but it was, but you didn't see the arts because it was not your interest, specially if you were in small town USA ... most of the "progressive" things in America had their foundation in the big cities, not the rest of the country!
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Posted: March 31 2013 at 02:28 |
Seems denmark was more or less like UK must have been, crap on the daytime radio, but quite a bit of Prog in TV and on nighttime radio, but still if we talk outside the prog elite stuff, yopu had to know someone how told you about it.
Musicians move too, you could discover Fripp from listning to Gabriel or Bowie.
I have found a lot of music by checking who was on the albums, back when no WWW.
I also had a book about rock, made by a journalist from Danish Radio (Jan Sneum - hats off), had all the Prog Acts there, and you could read what they had done and with whom.
For those of you who understand Scandinavian here is one of Serums shows (he is still on DR)
Its a one hour show, about Krautrock, in relation to HOLGER CZUKAY's 75 years birthsday
Its free.
This is about 3 music poets who died this year, one of them Kevin Ayers
Edited by tamijo - March 31 2013 at 03:03
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Posted: March 30 2013 at 01:38 |
The year 1985 saw me on a vacation to Bali (which extended to many other Indonesian islands over the years.....), I bought PF's 'The Wall' and fell in love with it. I was 13. I eventually got around to a video at the local video shop entitled 'Live At Pompeii' (which, having no clue, I thought was 'The Wall' performed live  ). Anyway, I fell in love with what I heard.
Around 1987, I discovered (pot  ) a book in the school library called 'The Encyclopedia Of Rock'. I nicked that book (I still have it but pretty shabby). I started hanging out at the 2nd-Hand record shop not far from home at the time (my older sister knew of this shop) - the guy behind the counter (in his mid-20's) turned out to be a fully-fledged Prog-Guru - Doug. I just asked him for bands that play long songs, and discovered Caravan, Nektar, Amon Duul II, Bo Hansson etc. I visited that shop almost on a weekly basis for the next 15 years, amassing many awesome Prog records. Doug has now been head-honcho of that shop for the last few years, and when I'm in town, I always drop in.
2005 was my discovery of this sacred site called Prog Archives - need I say more ???
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Posted: March 30 2013 at 00:34 |
axeman wrote:
For me, the trick wasn't finding the prog bands on the 70s. As somebody mentioned earlier they put out singles and then again Album-oriented Radio--before the record companies reined it in
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Can still remember Pink Floyd's Echoes and King Crimson's ItCotCK being played on the radio. Totally floored at what I had heard
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Posted: March 30 2013 at 00:21 |
Dark Side of the Moon was my intro, from my brother. King Crimson was on the radio with the title track from the first album. My intro to Genesis was, FYFM. Don't throw stuff at me ;). Really liked the song so I bought the album. Actually bought it 3 times thinking it was a defective album creating the bad production. Loved the album and worked my way backwards. ELP and Yes from junior high. These two and southern rock was all I heard at school. My intro to Tangerine Dream was when I asked a friend for anything like Pink Floyd without the words. He gave me Thief. I was hooked with better stuff to come. Caravan and Camel were from reading magazines and books.
But I can't remember what I ate for breakfast.
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